Hi Skempy, I just wanted to tell you that I found the kudzu and l glut along with the topa made a huge difference for me. Have you tried the MSM or adrafinil for fatigue as mentioned in an earlier post? I haven't but am interested in hearing more about them as I too get very tired from the topa. I have recently slacked off on the herbs and the topa and find the bottles of wine and vodka are emptying out quicker. I'm going to the beach for 2 days, will take the topa with me and when I come back, I'm going hard core with all the herbs. It really worked before. Good luck, let me know if you find anything for the fatigue as I will do the same.
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