I must be a member of the cult0] , since I never found the program hard sell! I've done everything completely of my own volition. I've had my criticisms of this program. I guess I see things as "hard sell" when someone calls you on the phone or shows up at your door and won't take no for an answer. You will find a number of people here who are pretty convinced that this is the complete "way out" for them, and also quite a few who use the parts of the program that work for them, but not the rest. Either way, everyone is usually welcome here, only a very, very infintesimal (sp?) few have been unwelcome, usually because they have been exceptionally ill-behaved. We tolerate dissention and welcome diversity. Welcome, Raphael.

Kathy