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Old 05-15-2006, 12:16 PM
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Hi All!

Has anyone here had experience with both topa and campral, both on comparative craving reduction properties as well as side effects, etc. I sometimes still feel quite tired on topa and wouldn't mind doing several months of abstinence at some point in the future with campral. I'll miss the weight-loss help with the topa though!

I'd love some feedback if anyone has had some experience with both. Thanks in advance!

Kathy
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Old 05-15-2006, 12:49 PM
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Hi Kathy,

I haven't been on Topa just Campral and I slipped this weekend pretty bad. Campral has given me no side effects at all.

I had read that on Campral if you slip it will make your slip less bad but that is simply not true, not for me anyway. I woke up this morning and there was a glass of wine on the bedside table next to me. First thing I saw when I opened my eyes. I am disgusted with myself and took the the day off from work today. Reading Adria's story made me even more ashamed of myself, plus it was Mother's Day, what a great mom I am. I remember nothing past around 7pm last night I think, and I think it's because of the Campral, the wine, and the Klonopin. My husband is talking to me but I can tell he's pissed and I am too embarrassed to ask him what happened last night and how did I end up in bed with a glass of wine. I know we must have had a fight because he slept on the couch.

My family took me to brunch for Mother's Day and I chatted with pansy and some others Sat night asking for advice about how to handle it because you get a free drink with brunch. Not only did I not do what they advised but I drank Sat night! At 9pm I announced I wanted a glass of wine, I had a huge craving and should have taken an L-Glut. My husband tried to talk me out of it but there was no stopping me and I thought on the Campral I would nurse one and that would be it. I drank a half a bottle (maybe a little more) and decided that at brunch I would skip the drink and start anew. But I didn't. My family doesn't know so they were offering me drinks when my glass was empty and I just never said no. My husband couldn't stop me because my family doesn't know. Even when it was dessert time I ordered a glass of wine instead. Then a woman I haven't seen in ages who is 82 came in and had a sad story, that her hubby had to be put into a home because he developed dementia and she was very sad. This is the second husband has has lost. I knew both of them very well. She is an alcoholic too and isn't going to stop, she's 82 and has had it rough. I'm certainly not going to preach to an 82 year old woman about her drinking while I'm sitting there drinking with her.

My family left and I told my husband I'd be home in 20 minutes (this place is right up the street from where we live). Well 2 hours later he comes back with the baby in the stroller and hands me my cell phone and storms out with her. This must have been about 5pm.

So now I have to start from scratch. I was 11 days abs, does this mean I have to be at day 1 again? Please tell me no, someone...Patty
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Old 05-15-2006, 01:48 PM
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Kathy,
As long as I am doing well with abstaining the Campral works great! When I drank on it, it was like a placebo...didn't help me at all. Same thing I experience with antidepressants. I am at a point where I don't know what it is doing because I've been on it since December. I don't feel any side effects, nor have I ever since starting. I no longer have a desire to drink, whether it's because of the Campral or just a combination of things, I don't think I'll mess with my formula at this point. I recently tried a couple doses of topa to see what it was like. Didn't like the foggy effect and felt SO tired the next morning which was a struggle during my 12 hour shift at work. I know it was early effects, but decided it wasn't for me since what I have is working. Gina
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Old 05-15-2006, 02:03 PM
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Hi Gina,
Is it ok to mix Topa with Campral- is there any research on it? Where did you get it??

How's the cool job?

Thanks, Patty
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Old 05-15-2006, 02:18 PM
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Old 05-15-2006, 02:54 PM
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Old 05-15-2006, 08:35 PM
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Hey Kathy imagine the weight you'd lose if you didn't drink at all!!
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Old 05-15-2006, 10:15 PM
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Thought I wanted to say something here, but I changed my mind! Sorry!
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Old 05-15-2006, 10:37 PM
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I'm starting the program Thurday and have 2 concerns-

1). The side effects of the Toparamine. I run a large Real Estate office and speak weekly at Sales meetings with 75+ people.

2). What is the time line for gett off the Meds. I haven't seen in any of the literature so far. Also my wife and my Dr. have both asked me that.

I appreciate any advice or direction on these.
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Old 05-15-2006, 11:31 PM
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The time line can be what you want it to be. Some people start titrating back down after a period of abstinence/moderation to see if their brain chemistry has changed sufficiently to handle it without the meds. Others opt to stay on the meds for a much longer time, even for life, if they want.

It's up to you. Have you read the book? I'd suggest that, if you haven't. Also, check out program updates on the home page for any changes to the book!

Good luck and welcome!
Kathy
 


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