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Old 06-23-2007, 07:24 AM
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A new member recently posted that she takes lithium orotate, an OTC natural supplement to curb cravings. I researched it a little on the web and it sounds like an interesting supplement (a mineral) used for manic-depressive disorder, addictions, and even Alzheimers. Does anyone have any experience with it or know more about it?
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Old 06-23-2007, 09:08 PM
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I've been on lithium carbonate since November last year as part of my alcohol dependence treatment. To be honest, it's changed my life. I feel "normal" for the first time, and I haven't had a drink in those 7 months. I am also taking campral and doing a lot of work with and without a counsellor.

When I look back on my life I now accept that I am probably a type 2 bi-polar sufferer (the milder version), and my Dr informs me that latest research indicates that 65% of WOMEN who have alcohol problems are bi-polar.

I miss the 'high's' but then again, I don't miss the lows and the hangovers!
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Old 06-23-2007, 09:23 PM
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I looked into it as well and I got worried about the kidney warnings. And I am not bipolar so I also wonder if it is helpful only for those who have bipolar tendencies that include alcohol versus someone who is not bipolar and likes alcohol.
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Old 06-23-2007, 09:38 PM
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Wow, I have never heard that figure about women alcoholics and bipolar.

I am sure I don't have it, but I do have other things like depression, as you guys know!

Lithium orotate sounds very interesting but it does sound like it would be best to get a doctor's advice on this.

Also, there is a great book about Omega 3 essential fatty acids (many people are defiicent) and depression as well as bipolar disorder. Called Omega 3 Connection by Andrew Stoll. This psychiatrist has done work with a high concentration of omega 3 in bipolar (special formula) and found good results.
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I am the new member that posted the message about the lithium orotate. I take it in a pill form, twice a day (with folic acid). I am two weeks AF. I am cautiously optimistic that I have really found something that works for me ( I could not handle Topa at all), that's OTC , and inexpensive. I am taking All One and L-glutamate as well.

I can't beleive it, but I don't want to drink. I have had a half empty bottle of wine in the kitchen for two weeks!! I feel as Flip said that it is giving me my life back. I feel "normal", not afraid of going home and finishing a bottle of wine everynight. My husband is a heavy drinker, and I found myself thinking last night, why is he doing that to himself!!!

I am not bi-polar. I started taking LO because of the research I read regarding its effectiveness with curbing alcohol cravings. It is not to be confused with Lithium Carbonate, which is a prescription and does require blood tests to monitor kidney problems. One study I read by Dr. Hans Nieper, who was the orignal proponent of LO, said that he tested patients for several years for kidney problems , but stopped after awhile since none had developed a problem.

As several people pointed out to my first post, I do have to get my mind in order as well. It seems easier to deal with my issues if I'm not thinking about drinking or feeling guilty for failing.

I want to thank you all so much for being here. Your honesty and courage is amazing.
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This is one of the supplements listed to be taken in the book "Seven weeks to sobriety" and here is what product info says about it:

A word about Bio-Lithium (Orotate)

Many believe Lithium is a drug; in fact, it's an important trace mineral and
one that many Americans lack! Standard psychiatric doses of 90-180 mg of
Elemental Lithium has given Lithium a negative reputation for causing a
"dial-tone" effect. That's too bad; in lesser doses given at HRC (5-15mg of
Elemental Lithium daily) we've seen many positive benefits without side
effects ... particularly for alcoholics:

Both practicing and abstinent alcoholics report low-dose Lithium improves
mood and decreases the desire for alcohol.
Alcoholics on Lithium show a reduction in mood disturbances.
Lithium reduces the number of days incapacitated by drinking severe enough
to need detoxification.
At HRC many abstinent alcoholics are able to normalize sleep patterns more
quickly by supplementing with low-dose Lithium.
Low Lithium levels have been linked to people with certain conditions
including: Heart Disease, Learning Disabilities, and Violent Criminal
Tendencies.
Other areas Lithium treatment shows promise for include: Depression,
Irritability, and sometimes Pre-menstrual Moods for women; Irritability, and
Loss of Temper for men; Aggressive Behavior in children; Anorexia Nervosa;
Cluster Headaches; Hyperthyroidism/Graves Disease; Gout; Fibromyalgia;
Herpes Simplex and other Viruses.
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Great info here. Thanks all for sharing......something to consider.
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I've looked up about everything on LO, and I'm getting mine tomorrow! I can't do the topa either, same deal, headache, surrounding eye pressure, and sneezing til I wet my pants....sober....lol......! "E", soooo glad you posted about this, you give me alot of hope! I do the amino acids, l-glut powder, evening primrose oil, great pharm. grade vits/min., etc...and I got the ALL ONE weight control formula I have a shake each morning...I'm soooo looking forward to seeing how the LO works!!! I can sure tell I have alot less control without the topa, but I felt just as bad as I did hungover on it! Not Good! Thanks for the info., and please keep posting!
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Let me know how it goes for you Tough! I am very intrigued.
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Will do, I buying it tomorrow when I go to town, and downing one in the car!....lol......
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