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Old 01-26-2011, 03:12 PM
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For various reasons I decided to try Lithium Orotate. I had read on a few sites that its takes a while to work. Some places have said 10 days some say 6 weeks. Anyway I started it 3 days ago along with choline vit b complex and folate acid as recommended. Right from the first day I felt this strange pleasant tiredness/calmness come over me almost like half a benzo. It happened about an hour after I took it. At first I thought that it was just a fluke but its 3 days in and its no fluke. Its really noticeable. Anyway needless to say Im delighted but curious. Has anyone else had this with Lithium Orotate? Im worried in case its just some case of beginners luck and that it will wear off. There are other posts in this section about this drug but no one has mentioned this mild benzo like effect. For those who it worked for how exactly did it work? How did it make you feel? Does it change over time? Ps I ordered doctors best brand from a uk vitamin company that operates on ebay of all places. They have 850 positive reviews including me. Delivery to Ireland was cheap and easy.

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Old 01-26-2011, 03:54 PM
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I have just spotted this line by Beatle. " It has a moderate but definite calming effect on me." Yeah Im with her on that.

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Old 01-31-2011, 12:26 PM
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Hi folks. I didnt get any replies to this but I want to leave an electronic paper trail for anyone who comes behind me researching this supplement. I know I devoured any posts on it when I was researching it. So here is my update. The benzo effect wore off in about 5 days and what I was left with was a highly significant calm evened out feeling. I havent touched a drink since I started it. Now obviously Im in a AF state of mind but this supplement has MORE and I stress MORE than played its part. If your mood is all over the place it might well be worth your while to research and think about this supplement. Im wondering exactly why it has had such a good effect on me. Its certainly making me think about the soft bipolar thing but really I dont know that and honestly I dont care. If it makes me feel this well and helps to keep me of the jungle juice then thats good enough for me. I will come back to this thread in another month or so and update it again.
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Thanks coalfire. I'm gaining interest in this, so please keep updating.
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:16 PM
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Coal, can you give us your quick background? Length of time drinking, quantity, what you do now instead of drink, did you drink daily?

Seems the longer you're on AL, the tougher it is to deal with going off it.

Did you have any negative side effects?

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Old 01-31-2011, 09:18 PM
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By the way, if you posted this in the drugs forum instead of Holstic Healing, you'd get more visibility on this topic and I'm sure people are interested. I'm assuming Lithium Orotate is RX and not holistic? I've never heard of it before. Is it a type of lithium or a natural similar product? Thanks.....
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Hi Brunnhilde. The golden rule when talking about Lithium is to make a clear distinction between Lithinm orotate and Lithium carbonate. Lithium carbonate is a strictly prescription only drug. Patients on this drug need regular blood tests to monitor for toxicity and it wouldnt be a suitable one for the MWO forums. Lithium orotate is the same mineral but because of the way it crosses the blood brain barrier it can be given in much smaller doses and no blood tests are necessary. The American FDA class it as a supplement and thats why you hear it talked about in the holistic healing section. I took it for several reasons. I am an episodic alcoholic or binge drinking alcoholic as we talk about in MWO. I researched episodic alcoholism and it said 30% of people with this had an underlying mood disorder. I wanted to give you a link to that but I cant find it. Here is a closely related article. It doesnt mention the 30% but it discusses the topic. The 30% article I must have read 20 times but typically cant find when I want it! Hypomania and Alcohol Use | Addiction Treatment My moods are also strongly linked to the changing of the 4 seasons which can also indicate an underlying mood disorder. This is what made me curious about Lithium orotate. I wondered what it would do for me and I just thought to heck with it-its cheap and easily obtained so I will give it a whirl. You asked me what Im doing now Im not drinking. Short answer-lots of tea drinking family visits. Long term Im waiting to see does this hold. Im saving money for a Baclofen trial-whether I will do it now or not I dont know.Anyway Baclofen or no Baclofen I will be staying on Lithium Orotate. Its not an absolute miracle by any means ( I wish!) but its firmly in my tool box now. Anyway here is an interesting little article about the effect Lithium orotate has been shown to have on human behaviour and crime rates!Lithium Orotate: Misunderstood 2 Also it used to be an ingredient in 7-up until 1950. It was marketed as a hangover cure because of its mood stabelization properties. Its an interesting little mineral thats for sure!Lithium orotate ps no I had zero negative side effects except for the mild benzo like effect for the first few days so it might be worth starting on a weekend for those who are working.

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Old 02-01-2011, 07:42 PM
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Coal, I'm happy you are bringing this up and keeping it up. And I'm happy that it is working so well for you.

As you know, I was extolling its virtues for a while way back when.

Then I'd forgotten about it for a while, but had started taking it again a couple months ago.

It's hard to tell what it's doing for me now, since I take so many other things... what's doing what, I don't know any more. If things are getting better, I am loathe to cut things out just to figure out which ones are working and which ones are not. If you get what I mean.

How much are you taking and when?
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:38 PM
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Hi Beatle. Im taking 5mg tds along with choline and folate acid as recommended. Apparently you can go higher. I know what you mean about mixing meds. If you feel better you dont know which one to attribute the improvement to! This is the last stop for me pre Baclofen. I want to wait and see can this hold me AF but one more relapse and Im straight over to the meds section to join you Baclofen babies. Im watching your progress very closely over there. Some great results but its no easy option. Its a hard slog for some of you-yourself included. One thing Im curious about Beatle. Baclofen seems to work well for those who have underlying anxiety but what about those who have an underlying mood disorder? I think Im going to post a thread in the meds section asking that.I havent read anything on it.
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I just started today and did feel calmer. However it supposedly takes weeks for any noticeable changes. We'll see.
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