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      Quote Originally Posted by kuya View Post
      Actually Starty, soon you will realise that it is YOUR insights that are guiding you. We are so used to buying into the BS that others know better than us that the idea that WE know best and always did and always will is kind of scary.....but it is true.

      Sharing this because Micheal Neill is great and fun and everyone should watch his stuff
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      Michael Neill: An End to Stress (Part One) - YouTube
      Yes!! I watched that last night. Very good.

      Also there is a free 8 week training thing on the blog Stay Solid link I posted. I have signed up so will report back

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      Yes!! I watched that last night. Very good.

      Also there is a free 8 week training thing on the blog Stay Solid link I posted. I have signed up so will report back
      OMG you are amazing! You just picked up the ball and ran with it. Can't wait to hear back

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      Just listened to Michael Neill's part 1, 2 and 3. Feeling strangely calm after.....
      IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO BE WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN
      Relapse starts long before the drink is drunk!!.Fresh Start!

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      Thanks for the recommendation for Clarity, Kuya. I just downloaded it. I figure it might serve me well as I return tomorrow to cross-country flying, an activity which didn't go well a couple weeks ago, leaving me with a feeling of dread for what's ahead. And why am I feeling this way?? Because of how I'm thinking about it. And thinking about it won't change anything so each time a thought about delays and airports and the stress it causes enters my mind (over and over!), I'm trying to just let it go. I'd better quit typing about it NOW because of course it is making me think about it!!

      I've tried to use this whatever it is with my current work load, also. Due to some choices by people upstream from me, I am suddenly buried in tasks. Having too much looming has always caused me a great deal of stress - I can remember being overwhelmed by "work to do" in even the earliest school grades (too many pictures to color?? I have no idea what the tasks were but I remember how I felt). I coped over the years by never procrastinating and making huge efforts to get things "done". Well, those familiar feelings came crashing back over the last several days. But I'm realizing that the "pile" is a problem only if I think it is. It's going to be there anyway, and I can do one task at a time, and eventually they each will be done. The reactions of people downstream from me in terms of how quickly (or slowly) I get these done also are problems only if let them be (and the fact is, they probably won't be reacting at all -- people in general know that others can only do so much in a certain amount of time). This probably seems obvious to many of you but my default setting is to try to do everything "right" and to do it "right now".

      I don't really understand all this but all I can say is that since I've been understanding that the tightness in my chest and the knot in my stomach are the result of how I'm thinking about my work load rather than the work load itself, they've gone away - without my doing things like meditation, hypnosis, exhausting exercise or any of the other techniques I've tried in the past to deal with what I realize is self-induced stress. Yesterday (when I should have been working ) I had the opportunity to hang out with my grandson for a few hours. Before this shift in my thinking, I suspect I would have declined because of all this stuff "I have to get done now". I'm so glad I took that time off - and didn't spend my time with him thinking about what I "should" have been doing. I will get some of it done today and some will have to wait until next week when I return. It's amazing to me that I'm ok with that. I normally knock myself out to be "all caught up" before a trip.

      I was reading in the Newbies Nest this morning -- it is so clear how much of the stress and angst people experience is because of how they are thinking about their situations! I wish I felt more confident in all of this to encourage them to explore it but don't have the words yet.

      Anyway, that's where I am at the moment -- encouraged that this can be very helpful.


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      Thanks for starting this thready NS and Kuya - it does seem like a sensible or an obvious 'philosophy'.
      There is so much about it, Im not sure if I will ever have that Aha moment, bit I will keep reading, watching (hoping!)..

      Video here was quite good, its only 10 minutes.

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      Great, clear video, Mary - thanks! Pictures always help .

      One thing I read last night has been going on in the back of my head all day -- it relates to my ongoing, constant efforts to be as calm, content, kind, compassionate, healthy, etc etc (all the good stuff) as I can be. As I mentioned above, I do things like meditate, yoga, exercise, walk, pet my dog, hug babies, etc etc and I don't think I should stop doing them as long as I enjoy them - which for the most part I do.

      But - the point the person (can't remember who - they all jumble together) was making was that those activities aren't necessary to attain the things I'm looking for! He compares it to massaging a toe that you keep dropping a brick on. The massage makes the toe feel somewhat better but how much easier and more effective to stop dropping the brick! Stop thinking the thoughts that are causing all the noise in your head and tension in your body and you won't have to do a bunch of stuff to calm it all down. So simple but at least to me, it isn't obvious.


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      Yep NS, that was food for thought, even in that short video.
      He wasn't saying that we shouldnt do those things, they work, as it blanks our minds therefore no negative thoughts. But that we don't have go to these efforts, as our default state could be always positive thoughts.

      The cynic in me scratches my head about reaching this point!

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      I don't think thoughts will always be positive - although when we have them, we should give them more attention that we give negative ones. I guess this says something about me but I rarely if ever get into loops of positive thinking - I have to actively think that way. On the other hand, I can obsess on negative thoughts/feelings.


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      Hey, I'm revealing my confusion for all to see, Molly, so join me, please!!

      I have to work at mindfulness -- think about what I'm "supposed" to be thinking about.

      I really don't at all know what the 3 Ps are (mind, thought, consciousness??) but what I'm running with at the moment is that when I do have a thought, I don't have to pay attention to it. So, when I think about all the work I have to do and the trip I have to take, my stomach knots up and I feel awful. The work and the trip exist and I will do them as the next days pass but it is the thinking about doing them that makes me feel sick -- as I've actually worked today, making my way through this pile, I've felt just fine. And when my trip begins tomorrow, I'll just do it. I've always known that my dread of things was always much worse than they turned out to be. Maybe this was of thinking is a way to circumvent the dreading part. We need Kuya to chime in!!


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      Doesn't what you describe fit with this? -- you're being mindful of (paying attention to thoughts about) things that make you feel good/at peace/healthy/as we all should be in our "natural" state and letting the other 59,999 thoughts go. Maybe you've been a 3-Pee-er all along!


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