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      A talk by Syd Banks about how we're ALL only a thought away from mental health:Three Principle Podcasts | 3PGC
      Syd Banks - One Thought Away


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      Hi all,
      NS, after I found a tip on letting thoughts & feelings come & go without fighting them, very helpful with AL cravings before Christmas you kindly offered the link to this thread. Thankyou very much. From reading through I find the three principles to be very beneficial in overcoming alcoholism & addiction, in terms of focusing on positive thoughts & feelings & trying to avoid focus on negative thoughts and feelings that may lead to negative behaviours & indeed may lead to relapse.

      However, beyond personal struggles with addiction & alcoholism and coping with day to day personal stresses I disagree with the application of the three principles in the strongest possible way in relation to my own personal experiences.

      Sadly not all humans live by the three principals & 'no man/woman is an island. There are serious issues & wrongs in this world worth fighting for. Sometimes taking action in response to other people's reaction/opinion based on nothing else but personal feelings is absolutely the right thing to do.

      There is great personal risk and little guarantee of any personal reward doing this. The hope of change for tomorrow for those that come after us is enough.
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      Hi, LostSoul

      I'm glad there was some useful material in this thread for you.

      My understanding of the 3Ps is that they are a description of how things work - not a directive to take or not take a specific action. I completely agree with you that
      There are serious issues & wrongs in this world worth fighting for. Sometimes taking action in response to other people's reaction/opinion based on nothing else but personal feelings is absolutely the right thing to do.
      In fact, I was really struggling a couple days ago. I couldn't stop thinking about many things despite the fact that the feelings that came with those thoughts were very bad and almost crippling. But what understanding the 3Ps does is enable me not to be so alarmed about and scared of my feelings. I know where they are coming from (my thoughts at that moment) and that they will pass. I'm not going crazy and won't always feel as bad as I do in that moment.

      I went to the march in DC last weekend and had a very positive, uplifting experience. I came home on Sunday, feeling ready to start working on some issues that I think are worth fighting for. And then on Monday, perhaps because I was tired but also because new things I think are wrong emerged, I totally broke down and cried over every little thing for most of the day. But for once instead of fighting it and telling myself I should feel differently and should buck up and what is wrong with me, I just allowed myself to feel what I felt. By evening I'd calmed down and was no longer chasing my panicky, this is the end of the world thoughts. Yesterday my calmer mind has brought some ideas for working on the issues that I think are important. And that feels good .


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      Only seen this thread, most certainly when I get some time I will go through it, thanks .


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      I think that in time one realises that, no matter how important you believe an issue is it is still only YOUR thinking about that issue. You feel what you think.
      The current political situation in the US makes this abundantly clear - reactions to one person and his beliefs/policies range from complete support and enthusiasm to abject fear and disappointment. And, almost astonishingly to me, there are people in the middle who pay no attention to what is going on, don't think about it, and so have no feelings either way.


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      Hi All,
      I have opened a dialogue, expressed my concerns directly to the organisation via email & am awatiring a response.

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      I have been introduced to your programme recently & think it is very useful for people to use in a number of different life experiences.
      However, beyond personal struggles with addiction & alcoholism and coping with day to day personal stresses I disagree with the application of the three principles in the strongest possible way in relation to my own personal experiences.

      Sadly not all humans live by the three principals & 'no man/woman is an island. There are serious issues & wrongs in this world worth fighting for. Sometimes taking action in response to other people's reaction/opinion based on nothing else but personal feelings is absolutely the right thing to do.

      There is great personal risk and little guarantee of any personal reward doing this. The hope of change for tomorrow for those that come after us is enough.

      Yours Sincerely
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      Re: The Three Principles Discussion Thread

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      Re: The Three Principles Discussion Thread

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      A talk by Syd Banks about how we're ALL only a thought away from mental health:Three Principle Podcasts | 3PGC
      Syd Banks - One Thought Away
      I'm enjoying this talk by Syd. Simple and useful. there are heaps of other free podcasts at this link too. Thanks NS.

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      Old Syd (via Kuya) changed my whole take on life, Mr G. I'm glad you're giving him some time .


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