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      Thanks for coming back ABC. When I read your initial post starting the thread my reaction was " I'm glad to be made aware of another site out there to rely on for help and support. I'll have to check it out."

      Later, I read on that some had a problem with the post. Thinking I must have missed something I went back and re-read it a couple of more times and didn't feel threatened or offended by it.

      I think most of us get to that stage in our drinking of " wanting to quit and needing to quit". Unfortunately I stayed in that state for many, many years. Wanting to quit and needing to quit didn't work for me. Only actually " DOING" it does!

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      Hi ABC -Your opening statement is a truism and I thank you for expressing your opinion.

      Now, here is the reality; no alcoholic "wants" to get sober. An alcoholic wants to be released from the current pain that they are enduring without knowing there is a better, more real, solution. Most true-pure alcoholics reach a point in their lives when the pain of drinking far exceeds any of their other pains, thus, they assemble in their minds that the alcohol is causing all of their problems. Quite simply put, this is just not true. Alcohol is making all of their problems worse, but the alcohol is not the root source of their problems.

      One last thought ABC and you have already alluded to it; "if getting sober were easy, we all would get drunk every day/night." Alcoholics and other addicts are looking for the quickest form of pain relief and our drugs of choice provide that instant pain relief -the only problem is that our pain medication is killing us off quickly. Hug and love your fellow addict but show them some direction (in a kind sort of way).

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      Thanks for your thoughts in #17 abcowboy!

      Interesting thing happened last night: i met a new work colleague who told me to not have any negative people in my life, surround myself with positive people, and we talked about change, and the victim mentality. This wasn't al specific, just life in general. It's really got me thinking!

      I haven't had a drink since my little slip last week, to be honest, and i haven't felt like one either.
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      One day at a time.. Sometimes it's one minute or one second at a time.. Most important thing is to look ahead and don't look back!

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      Thanks for stopping in ALpro, Fin, and befreenow and for voicing your positive opinions! But befreenow, I have to say that in my case anyway, I wanted to quit drinking. I wanted it so bad that I was willing to do almost anything to quit and stay quit! And I guess I can consider myself lucky that I didn't need detox, rehab, or drugs to get me sober. My want was all it took, that, and hard work and doing whatever I had to do to stay sober. But if that failed me, then I would have looked into the alternatives I mentioned above. I couldn't stay on that merry-go-round for even one more day. My drinking had to stop and I wanted that more than anything else in the world! And because of that want, I'm sober today and will continue to remain sober.
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      Quitting and staying quit isnít easy, itís learning a whole new way of thinking. Itís accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
      Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
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      Hi Change, first, congrats on not drinking! Stick with whatís got you through this past week and start adding more to it! Your new work colleague had some great advice for you. Itís too bad we canít always have nothing but positive people around us! But unfortunately weíll have negative people that we have to put up with from time to time as well. Itís doesnít matter what we think of their negativity, itís how we choose to deal with it that counts. You wonít be able to do anything about it, so donít get drawn into it. When Iím faced with negative people, I become more positive in my dealings with them. I stay positive and show them their negativity doesnít affect me. And sooner or later they will quit interacting with you or they will want to be more like you.

      Choices, it all boils down to choices. Every morning when we get out of bed we are faced with choices, some simple, some not so simple. I choose to pick the positive choices, and they can all be positive if we look at them that way. There is something good in every situation, we just have to open our eyes to see it.
      Quitting and staying quit isnít easy, itís learning a whole new way of thinking. Itís accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
      Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
      Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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      Great posts all of ya!!!

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      Great post. Well said! Stay positive, strong,and calm. Really changes the flow of the whole exchange.
      "Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never -- in nothing, great or small, large or petty -- never give in, except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. " by Winston Churchill .

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      Autumn you have done what has become a life changer for you and your whole family. I am so proud of you and happy your doing well.

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      Quote Originally Posted by befreenow View Post
      Hi ABC -Your opening statement is a truism and I thank you for expressing your opinion.

      Now, here is the reality; no alcoholic "wants" to get sober. An alcoholic wants to be released from the current pain that they are enduring without knowing there is a better, more real, solution. Most true-pure alcoholics reach a point in their lives when the pain of drinking far exceeds any of their other pains, thus, they assemble in their minds that the alcohol is causing all of their problems. Quite simply put, this is just not true. Alcohol is making all of their problems worse, but the alcohol is not the root source of their problems.

      One last thought ABC and you have already alluded to it; "if getting sober were easy, we all would get drunk every day/night." Alcoholics and other addicts are looking for the quickest form of pain relief and our drugs of choice provide that instant pain relief -the only problem is that our pain medication is killing us off quickly. Hug and love your fellow addict but show them some direction (in a kind sort of way).
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      Hi kronkcarr -I am not interested in posting here anymore.
      The reason he does not want to post here anymore is because he is a banned member - Do not let him into your confidence

      http://www.mywayout.org/community/members/20845.html

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