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    Re: synethetic alcohol in a few years? hope so

    At first blush I myself would not touch this with a 10 foot pole. My first reaction though was this could be great for harm reduction from booze for a hard core vodka drinker like myself. But 220 days sober the mere thought now of ANYTHING that would alter my mind would only serve as an engraved invitation to undo all the hard work I have invested in removing myself from all substance that alter my mind in anyway. That said, on paper it seems to nicely circumnavigate all the negative issues of what alcohol does to the abuser of alcohol. Yes it may even mitigate or prevent abuse of booze. A lot has yet to be proven out as to how this form of an alcohol high affects normies and alkies alike. Again for someone like me who is so easily addicted to anything that hints at a high it would probably make matters worse not better. I know I can only go forward in life with completely sober winds in my sails and I actually prefer it this way now. I have come to realize and understand that alcohol was not my problem, it was only the medicine my mind craved to numb out unmanaged stress and anxiety and I could have just as easily become addicted to pot, heroin, opiods or anything beside just alcohol in my quest to calm the noise in my skull. It was lots of therapy and not drugs or alcohol that "cured" me and this new fangled alcohol would only distract me from addressing my real issues.
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    Re: synethetic alcohol in a few years? hope so

    @4theboyz: I agree, Quit Buddy! (I’m at 250 days)
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    Re: synethetic alcohol in a few years? hope so

    Look at what synthetic marijuana has done to people. Psychosis and death in some people. Synthetic or not it will affect people differently with the chemicals in it just like synthetic marijuana.

    Scots you came on here for a reason, this is a forum for alcoholics or problem drinkers, obviously you were worried about your intake or you would not have google what you did to find MWO. I didnt drink in the mornings and i didnt think i was as bad as others, but i hit my rock bottom and it was my rock bottom. Now i dont give a shit about alcohol, i dont need to justify when i drink, why i drink or who i drink with as i dont drink.

    This may sound callous but who the fuck cares about synthetic alcohol, it will hurt people just like the other shit they bring out on the market, promising the world but all they do is make money off people who do have issues with the hope of a better life. The only way for a better life is to make the choice to stop drinking or taking the substance you imbibe in off the table. My idea of fun is not going out and watching people get shit faced, id prefer netflix and a good knitting pattern or meeting friends for a meal and coffee.
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    Re: synethetic alcohol in a few years? hope so

    If the stuff is mood altering then it is psychoactive and probably starting to wear those nasty little neural pathways of behaviour into our brains - acting on our reward centres, the greedy little bastards, which will just want more.

    I think it's a great discussion, Kev. I'm with @available though - I don't need any more shit to deal with. Netflix, novels and gardening forever!
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    To be honest, and with all due respect Scotskev, my opinion is that these synthetic alcohol threads should be moved to the Moderators section, seems to me that the only people who would drink them are the ones not ready to abstain....
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    Re: synethetic alcohol in a few years? hope so

    Quote Originally Posted by scotskev81 View Post
    I consider myself a normal drinker who drinks too much in social settings. I donít drink alone, in the morning or just to get drunk and nothing else. I love going out and sitting in a bar, granted those sessions can get out of hand sometimes but other times they can be quite civil.

    For me this synethic alcohol would be perfect.

    p.s. people who have long since given up drinking wonít start drinking this. Itís for the current crop, problem drinker and also for the future generation.
    I don't mean this in a bad way at all. But, I am questioning how you are having liver damage and can still consider yourself a normal drinker. I think that I read that you were concerned about your liver readings.
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    Re: synethetic alcohol in a few years? hope so

    So glad to see you @4theboyz - I don't get to other threads much, but glad you're here.

    Scotskev - I spent a good long time trying to convince myself that I was a normal drinker who just drank too much from time to time. It was such a relief to finally come clean with myself and admit that normal drinkers don't drink too much as often as I did; don't worry about liver function; don't organize evening outings around the availability of alcohol; don't wake at 3am with guilt/shame/regret; don't... (there is a long list as it turns out). I hope you get the answers you're looking for, but if you look at my avatar, maybe they have been there all along...

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    Re: synethetic alcohol in a few years? hope so

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavati View Post
    I hope you get the answers you're looking for, but if you look at my avatar, maybe they have been there all along...

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    Re: synethetic alcohol in a few years? hope so

    Quote Originally Posted by 4theboyz View Post
    At first blush I myself would not touch this with a 10 foot pole. My first reaction though was this could be great for harm reduction from booze for a hard core vodka drinker like myself. But 220 days sober the mere thought now of ANYTHING that would alter my mind would only serve as an engraved invitation to undo all the hard work I have invested in removing myself from all substance that alter my mind in anyway. That said, on paper it seems to nicely circumnavigate all the negative issues of what alcohol does to the abuser of alcohol. Yes it may even mitigate or prevent abuse of booze. A lot has yet to be proven out as to how this form of an alcohol high affects normies and alkies alike. Again for someone like me who is so easily addicted to anything that hints at a high it would probably make matters worse not better. I know I can only go forward in life with completely sober winds in my sails and I actually prefer it this way now. I have come to realize and understand that alcohol was not my problem, it was only the medicine my mind craved to numb out unmanaged stress and anxiety and I could have just as easily become addicted to pot, heroin, opiods or anything beside just alcohol in my quest to calm the noise in my skull. It was lots of therapy and not drugs or alcohol that "cured" me and this new fangled alcohol would only distract me from addressing my real issues.
    Yes I agree with you.

    If you’ve already quit alcohol then there will be no need to try this new one.
    I was thinking of the people who are already drinking and have no desire to quit. “normal drinkers” someone once said.

    Might also be good for the next generation of drinkers who will be aged around 18 when this hits the market. That group need never try the real stuff.

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