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      Morning,
      @byebyebridgetjones........you are one Hell of a woman and what can I say about your son....... It would have been easy just to plead guilty to just get the world off his back and do the time but he stuck to his guns...you must be so proud.
      Mr JC's (would you believe a legal aid lawyer) hopes that she gets prosecuted to the full degree............not only for the waste of police and other services waste of time but to put the fear of god into those that think they can get away with with false accusations. Regardless of her addiction excuse.
      You are both amazing people, hold your heads up and the offer of a spare bed for a vacation here is still there. Tell him we're only half an hour away from one of the best surfing places in the country. Tynemouth.............its freezing cold even in the summer but we get people from all over the world. He can teach me.
      We both send much love to you both.

      @stirly-girly.....good to see you as always. Can't believe its four years since Freddie went. We know its our last summer with Bess and she's gone back to puppy hood and really makes us laugh.

      We're both supposed to go up to in-laws...its a big family do....a cousin and husband are over from the USA. I'm not going apart from the fact I can't wear a seat belt. The prodding and pulling of said boob has left it bruised and very sore so I can't sleep very well and tbh while I'm feeling very calm I'm not feeling very jolly. He'll tell his Mum.........she used to be matron (the days when it was a proper lion of a matron) in the hospital I was tested and I know I'll get a phone call later. I love her to bits.

      Just taken a couple of mega- painkillers so getting sleepy. I'll be back.
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      I had a feeling that Mr JC was a solicitor, JC. Thanks for that. I think the dead giveaway was when she claimed victims compensation....the next day. I estimate that the case has cost tax payers hundreds of thousands of dollars, as well. Bitch.

      Anyway, there are you with a bashed up boob, offering a surfing holiday. Bless you love. I'm sure you don't feel like a get together. Sounds like a hell of an excuse for a day in bed to me.
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      Evening All,

      Also very good questions @stirly-girly.

      There are charges in relation to this - you can do jail time for making false statements, and I want her to.

      I demanded via our solicitors that the DPP charge her. So far, they are refusing to do so citing case load. That’s not good enough for me. We can appeal but there are a few other issues with going forward -

      The boy is seriously depleted and I’m not sure I can put him through more.


      By the grace of God, the case did not reach any media. If we proceed, we might not be so lucky next time.

      I am a huge believer in karma and with the girl’s drug use in mind, we might not have to wait too long…

      At the moment we are working through a fear of answering the door and phone or checking the letterbox. Sounds peculiar but sometimes I will check the letterbox six times a day – or be too fearful to. That will pass.

      We are also trying to repair our relationship as, to be honest, he was a complete bastard to live with through it all. Not that I blame him.

      Mostly I resent the damage that things like this do to genuine cases of sexual assault.

      THAT is unforgivable.
      I agree with everything you've said, Bridge but my question is this and I need the same answer from the courts here in Greece - if she says that she lied - then IMVHO, it's a open and shut case. She had people charged by making false statements and she should be jailed. No hearing, no nothing - if the case was already dropped because she said she lied then it's an open and shut case. No need to involve either your boy or the others charged. End of story. We are facing a similar situation her. Soon to be former DIL was supposed to pay child support for three months as custody was given to younger son. She didn't, in clear defiance of a court order. Why should younger son have to bring charges against her and pay lawyers fees, etc.,? She should simply be charged by the court, thrown in jail as the law indicates for a father in arrears of child support and that is that. Sick to death of court hearings, witnesses, and psychiatrists who get paid to tell downright lies and a incompetent lawyer who has thrown son under the bus. And worst of all, you can't do a damn thing about it without paying a small fortune on legal fees and spending countless hours gathering information, then having people summoned for more court hearings, more lies told and so on and so on. Makes my blood boil. And this is a simple custody case. Think of other very serious cases that involve the same thing. Justice is a word I'm not sure I understand anymore.

      Jackie - hope you get some rest. Just so you know - my friend who recently had a hysterectomy due to uterine cancer, also found out that one of her ovaries had a different kind of cancer so she underwent chemo. Just as chemo ended she had a scan and they discovered a lump in her breast. Sheer panic on her part. Turns out it was just a fatty lump and nothing at all to be concerned about. And my one aunt had many surgeries due to fibrous lumps in her mammies and my Mom too. I know every case is different but every anomaly is not necessary bad. Just saying, sweetheart. As for Bess, I love it when older animals act like kids - kinda reminds me of myself and my special friend. He recently - last Monday - had cataract surgery. It went well, thank goodness. Having his other eye done on Monday. He can see colours again!!
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      Oh I could not agree more @stirly-girly. My opinion is that the public prosecutors should not be allowed to say no.
      Can you imagine if every attention-seeking ego maniac had a go at this?
      Likewise there is no use making parenting payments mandatory and then not prosecuting for non payment. That is legislation with no teeth and is a waste of everyone's time and effort. If they would enforce such laws, people would comply with them. You must be furious.
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      Oh I could not agree more @stirly-girly. My opinion is that the public prosecutors should not be allowed to say no.
      Can you imagine if every attention-seeking ego maniac had a go at this?
      Likewise there is no use making parenting payments mandatory and then not prosecuting for non payment. That is legislation with no teeth and is a waste of everyone's time and effort. If they would enforce such laws, people would comply with them. You must be furious.
      Furious and very frustrated to say the least. Due to her neglect - as proven by statements made by younger son, her brother and the girl who stood up for younger son and wife at their wedding plus photographic evidence, exclusive custody was awarded to him. He had the boy (2 years 2 months old at the time) exclusively for three months during which he spent no time at his mother's home, only saw her in the morning when the school bus to pick him up. She appealed the decision twice and her appeals were rejected. They went to court 14th of May with a statement from her psychiatrist stating that she is a capable mother - this directly opposite to a statement he made two months prior saying she couldn't identify herself as a mother (note she has been going to psychologists and psychiatrists since the age of 20 - kind of a "hobby" if you will.) Two other psychiatrists were consulted by us and both consider that the psychiatrist was paid to restate his opinion of her mental state. A statement from the boy's godmother saying that DIL is not the pathological liar that she is - this in spite of a confrontation about this issue where the godmother was present and DIL herself admitted that she has told many lies about many things and continues to do so. And due to these statements, she was bringing charges against son for defamation of character. His lawyer advised him to pull out to avoid any further charges, court hearings, etc., - they only had 15 hours to prepare their case after the papers were served so it was a panic decision and he agreed to sign the consensual divorce agreement to end all of this mess. She has custody, he pays child support. For now. He can challenge this at any time but it will be a long, messy, expensive process and we have not only the family business to run but he needs to be calm and focused the times he has the child with him - two nights a week and every other weeked. His emotional state for the past two years has been very much challenged since he discovered things about her past that he didn't know and mainly the fact that she loves to lie and mislead people to put it politely. She has also asked for a divorce 4 times over the past 2 years and then changed her mind. An emotional roller coaster for younger son, to say the least. Finally, since February 15th they are living separately and the divorce will be final in a short while. Her parents have supported her fully through all of to uphold their family's "facade" to the rest of the world, in spite of the fact that they know full well the depth of her problems. Endless conversations with son, endless hours of him gathering facts and information to support his case and emotionally draining for not only him but us as well. Mind you, nothing compared to what you have gone through with your boy, Bridge, just very, very tiring and frustrating. BTW, my nephew was charged with SA last year and on the advice of his legal aid attorney, pleaded guilty although he could remember nothing of the incident. (he was on ant-depressants and although he told the girls they were with that he was not to drink alcohol, he was served a drink with AL which reacted badly with his meds. The girl involved was 18 at the time - legal drinking age in Canada is 19. He was at her parents home for a party. She claims she went to sleep fully clothed and woke to find him having oral sex with her. He remembers nothing. Now how she woke up from the oral sex but didn't wake up when he was removing her jeans and panties is a question. At the time she was involved with another lad and already pregnant by him but that is another issue. Nephew was advised to plead guilty as it was his first offense and that at most he would be put on parole and that would be the end of it. Nope. Got 6 months jail, is now a registered sex offender and his dreams of becoming a teacher are gone for ever. Not because he's my nephew but he's the last guy in the world who would force himself on a girl. Actually a bit shy and one of the nicest kids you could ever wish for. Shit happens to the best of them it seems. I hope you and your boy can patch up your relationship and move on with your lives. The whole situation has put you through enough. Hopefully the little bitch gets what she deserves! And definitely the legal system needs a good shaking up as far as things like this are concerned.

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      Jesus Christ Stirly!
      What an hideous, hellaceous mess!
      I wouldn't wish such an experience on my worst enemy.
      Your son must be so angry and disillusioned. The family obviously realise that she is personality disordered. Sounds like they are well and truly part of the problem.

      And as for your nephew...but for the grace of God. That poor poor bloke. How will he ever trust again?

      They wonder why we get cynical love!
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      Bridget,sounds like you and your family have been to hell and back,I hope you all can move forward and heal Jackie, thinking of you too,waves to all
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      Just popped in for a quick read and wanted to send hugs to JC and Bridget. Have not much time to post. Am thinking of you both. Spain going really well, beautiful weather. Will check in properly when I get home.

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      Evening,
      Hope we all enjoyed our nanna naps or big sleep. Mine was bliss.
      Its been heartbreaking and heartwarming to see such honesty from Bridgeeeee and Stirly. Even Mr JC would say the laws an ass. Obviously, over the decades he's been practicing there's been many changes. He doesn't do criminal any more...although he's up to date as he has to be to keep his certificate....its too complicated these days. But back in the day he would never ever have reccommended pleading guilty when they're not.
      These days he does house conveyancing and wills and stops his boss having panic attacks. She's a child advocate.
      I feel positive.........so much so I've been looking at flights to Washington DC so rather than his cousins coming over here we'll go to them........probably April 2020.

      MIL not only met her nieces today but her great-nieces and her great-great nieces. I've had a look at the photos and I haven't seen her look so happy for years.
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