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      Out of interest, what did your doc suggest?

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      Its OK, I have just read the jewels. I think counselling is an excellent idea. It has helped me out of my darkest moments too. I really hope someone gets in touch with you today xxx

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      Thanks for posting this Chill, great read, I have been on and off Anti D's for a long time, my doctor gets really frustrated with me because after 3 or 4 months I no longer will take them as I don't want to rely on tablets but within 6 to 12 months I am back asking for more!!

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      Posts are fabulous I am so delighted I was introduced to MWO I'm addicted already love it!!!! I am getting so much fantastic information helping me with my new AF life and now I am determined to combat my depression

      thank you, all you wonderful people xx

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      Chillgirl;1246824 wrote: this is another link which included this statement which fascinates me as Im currently reading a lot about inflammatory foods and how much they affect us and diseases such as arthritis and alzheimer's

      Why Antidepressants Donít Work for Treating Depression


      Food allergies cause inflammation, and studies now show inflammation in the brains of depressed people.
      I thought the whole article was fascinating, and pulled together much of what I had read in snippets here and there.

      I just want to include the first introductory paragraphs here for those who missed the article reference or didn't have time to go to the link and read it:

      (I also hope people on ADs, especially those who are having success on them, will not be offended. I know I was on many, and they hurt me far more than helped me, which is why I searched out alternatives, and found out much of this information (and more) myself.)


      HERE?S SOME DEPRESSING RECENT medical news: Antidepressants don?t work.

      What?s even more depressing is that the pharmaceutical industry and Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have deliberately deceived us into believing that they DO work. As a physician, this is frightening to me. Depression is among the most common problems seen in primary-care medicine and soon will be the second leading cause of disability in this country.

      The study I?m talking about was published in The New England Journal of Medicine. It found that drug companies selectively publish studies on antidepressants. They have published nearly all the studies that show benefit ? but almost none of the studies that show these drugs are ineffective. (1)

      That warps our view of antidepressants, leading us to think that they do work. And it has fueled the tremendous growth in the use of psychiatric medications, which are now the second leading class of drugs sold, after cholesterol-lowering drugs.

      The problem is even worse than it sounds, because the positive studies hardly showed benefit in the first place. For example, 40 percent of people taking a placebo (sugar pill) got better, while only 60 percent taking the actual drug had improvement in their symptoms. Looking at it another way, 80 percent of people get better with just a placebo.

      That leaves us with a big problem ? millions of depressed people with no effective treatments being offered by most conventional practitioners. However, there are treatments available. Functional medicine provides a unique and effective way to treat depression and other psychological problems. Today I will review seven steps you can take to work through your depression without drugs. But, before we get to that, let?s take a closer look at depression.

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      My biggest problem is with how depression is diagnosed. It is subjective based on how you feel at a specific moment in time. Asking if I feel sad or hopeless then telling me that they have a pill that will make me feel happier and less hopeless seems crazy. Taking action in your life and seeing daily progress cures depression in my opinion. You get to decide whether you are depressed and how long it lasts in my opinion.

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      With depression sometimes being an underlying issue with addiction, this would make a great sub section

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      Nelz;1247254 wrote: With depression sometimes being an underlying issue with addiction, this would make a great sub section
      The only problem is 75% or more of people who think they are depressed think they need medication to solve it. If you open up a depression section it will become and advertisement for which drug works best IMHO.

      The reason why I normally stay away from this subject is because many people truly believe that meds are the only option. Telling a severely depressed person that they can change the way they feel on their own is like telling a recovering alcoholic who use AA religiously that they can quit drinking on their own. If a person truly doesn't believe it they will fight you tooth and nail to show you why they can't. I know for myself both are possible, but any one with beliefs in the other direction will tell me straight out that I obviously wasn't as much as an alcoholic as them or I must have never been really "clinically depressed". So although I like the idea, I think it would erupt into a flame war.

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      Supercrew;1247259 wrote: The only problem is 75% or more of people who think they are depressed think they need medication to solve it. If you open up a depression section it will become and advertisement for which drug works best IMHO.

      The reason why I normally stay away from this subject is because many people truly believe that meds are the only option. Telling a severely depressed person that they can change the way they feel on their own is like telling a recovering alcoholic who use AA religiously that they can quit drinking on their own. If a person truly doesn't believe it they will fight you tooth and nail to show you why they can't. I know for myself both are possible, but any one with beliefs in the other direction will tell me straight out that I obviously wasn't as much as an alcoholic as them or I must have never been really "clinically depressed". So although I like the idea, I think it would erupt into a flame war.
      You have no idea how with you on this I am. My wife takes enough drugs to keep Walgreen in business forever. Ive been doing a small amount of research on the topic..and would LOVE it, if she would be open minded about it.

      To this point, its pretty much me talking about things Ive heard, and from what I gather, doing the "in one ear, and out the other"


      I feel very encouraged by these posts stating that it can be treated without meds. And its also nice to hear of other people with the same issues.

      So, I guess Ill just keep doing my nerdy internet searching, and read some first hand stories as well.

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      Supercrew;1247225 wrote: My biggest problem is with how depression is diagnosed. It is subjective based on how you feel at a specific moment in time. Asking if I feel sad or hopeless then telling me that they have a pill that will make me feel happier and less hopeless seems crazy. Taking action in your life and seeing daily progress cures depression in my opinion.

      I totally agree! I can see how with chronic depression you may need ADs for a short time to see you through the worst but in most cases I know Dr's continue to prescribe AD for many many years, sometimes lifetimes. My worry about this is that you never address the underlying issues or develop good coping abilities. You can wrap strong tape around a crumbling pillar to stop the crumbing but you never fix the pillar. I dont want to stick a band aid over my breakages, I want to fix them!

      I have a close friends who has been on AD for 30 years, she is a chain smoker, drinks more than would be healthy, never exercises and her diet could be better. I really believe improving each one of these issues would make a vast difference to her life but I totally respect her choices. I however will improve every aspect of my life to see if I can heal myself before resorting to any meds. I proudly refused a piece of cake at work today as the sight of all that sugar = more depression to me
      . I am going to take this very seriously and follow the suggested guidelines. I drank more water today and tonight I intend to get more sleep. I will report back with my progress.

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