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      I suspect that 99% of alcohol abusers are depressed and/or anxious

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      Janka I think thats a very good point, most people do lift a drink to combat the lows I know I certainly have.

      Chill Girl book had been you mentioned a book had been recommended would you mind sharing the name of it with me i'm always interested in new material that may help with this issue. I hope your mood lifts soon, I completely understand how your feeling and like everyone else here if I can do anything to help I would be very happy to x

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      Sorry you are feeling bad as soon as you wake up Chill Girl! Sounds like you are coping with something in particular at the moment? I have felt that way before but not now, during periods when I was going through something, like a breakup. Looking back on it, I was sometimes overestimating an event due to over-sensitivity or inability to cope with rejection or unnecessary self-blame. Sometimes depression results from being too hard on ourselves and having unrealistically negative thoughts. A great book for this is Mindful Way Through Depression by Jon Kabatt Zinn. When you are depressed, you can't trust your internal dialogue.

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      Nancy - Im a fan of John Kabatt Zinn's meditation and found this great full seminar by him on youtube on the subject of stress.
      http://youtu.be/KZEy3Liz3ks[/video]]Mindfulness Stress Reduction And Healing - YouTube

      Yes, i am going through what i would call "situational depression" as Im going to have to leave where I'm living as I can no longer afford to pay the rent and I'm not sure where I'm going yet, so I understand where the depression is coming from.

      However right now i need my brain working on solutions instead of being in this black abyss which is not going to help me solve my problems. You are absolutely right that we cannot trust our internal dialogue when we get into this state of mind. Im probably convincing myself things are more hopeless than they are. Im determined to completely tackle this holistically and follow all the suggested methods.

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      I know what you mean about situational depression. The catch is that if you are prone to depression or negative thinking, it's easy to make a situation much worse than it is. So a breakup for example becomes evidence that you are worthless and the pain lasts for months. I think some of the Buddhist thinkers point out that it's not just an experience that causes suffering, but all of the false interpretations we place around that experience. A therapist once pointed out to me something simple, it's important to see the glass as half full. And importantly, there are always options. That last part really stuck with me. Anyway, it sounds like you are doing all the right things.

      Edit: I am adding something in after reflecting on this thread a bit more. It's true that life can be sad and we need to accept that, not have unrealistic expectations. But when I look back at depression I suffered from in the past, I see some genuinely tough things, but I also see things that were just a figment of my imagination/sensitivity/low self-esteem. Change that and you correct what some people suppose is a chemical imbalance treated by drugs.

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      Chillgirl if you get a chance watch this video regarding happiness. I have been studying happiness versus depression recently and I found this very interesting. It's about 20 minutes long, but I found it worth while in my search for ultimate happiness and what happiness really is and why we feel the way we do.

      Dan Gilbert asks, Why are we happy? | Video on TED.com

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      Thanks Supercrew, I really enjoyed that. What he seems to be saying is that too much choice can actually make us less happy and a huge part of being happy is acceptance of our circumstances.

      It's back to what resists persists, and how going against the flow is always going to be a battle. When we argue with reality we loose 100% of the time.

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      Nancy - I totally agree that circumstances do not cause suffering, out thinking causes suffering. I'm a huge believer in the power of our thinking and our ability to change our thoughts. My frustration with these feelings of depression is that my usual method of replacing negative thoughts with positive ones doesn't seem to be working right now. It's as if I've gone too deep into the negative. At the moment I'm holding onto "this too shall pass".

      One of the problems is that trying to solve problems in a depressed state of mind is pointless and only compounds the depression, I'm trying to accept that until I deal with the depression I'm not in the right place to tackle the issues I'm facing. This seems to be working as by letting go temporarily of problem solving is lessening the feeling of panic.

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      I am a firm believer in rational emotive behavior therapy which addresses how we think about a situation as the source for negative consequence. I see similarities between REBT and the serenity prayer actually because both point to a differentiation between things and circumstances we can change and acceptance for the things in life we can not. It took me some practice with REBT but I now only concentrate on the battles in life I can win and accept the rest and don't let it get me down. Each of us is different and there is not a one size fits all when it comes to depression but this method has helped me greatly.

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      Man,

      this was such good info, I got all kinds of excited and started telling wifey about it. I guess its like being an AL, ya cant help someone that doesnt want help.

      I was merely telling her the positive things that might come about by diet change, quitting sugar, and I just got the complete shut down.

      Am I wrong in my assesment? She just seems sooooo against anything I say....Im being very diplomatic about it...I feel kinda lost.

      Guess I should just let it die

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