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    Hi,
    Something I had done before I actually quit was to do a liver cleanse. I actually did it because it included a herbal habit breaking "tonic". I do not think it broke any habits or cravings. But I did notice the liver cleanse. It cleared away the puffiness and I felt better. Others commented how good I looked. I was still drinking at that point.

    But I wonder, if it helped prime my system to help me quit when I did. I had a relatively easy quit. I had no withdrawal or aches and pains. Sleep was a bit off for the first month. Cravings have been very minimal. AL thoughts - ya - they are still there.

    I was also on Gaba for 2 years due to another issue - and it had absolutely no effect on my drinking. Went off it a few years ago.

    Shows how everyone is unique and different paths work differently for everyone.

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    Bump - some very useful information - in one spot.
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    .... the joy of being sober never gets old !!

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    Dreaming of Better Sleep: 7 Natural Fixes for Insomnia


    Saw this article yesterday.. since many folks have trouble with sleep when 1st drying out (myself included), thought this was interesting. The supplements they suggest for sleep highly overlap those for axiety, which is no surprise really as they impact the brain the same way...full article at the bottom

    1. MELATONIN is an important hormone secreted by the pineal gland, a small gland in the center of the brain. Melatonin is one of the best aids for sleep. Melatonin supplementation has been found helpful in inducing and maintaining sleep in both children and adults. It appears that the sleep-promoting effects of melatonin are most apparent when a person’s melatonin levels are low. So it’s not like sleeping pills or even 5-HTP–it will only produce a sedative effect when melatonin levels are low. A dosage of 3 mg at bedtime is more than enough. I prefer under-the-tongue (sublingual) tablets.

    2. 5-HYDROXYTRYPTOPHAN (5-HTP) is converted in the brain to serotonin–an important initiator of sleep. 5-HTP has also been reported to decrease the time required to get to sleep and to reduce awakenings. Boost 5-HTP’s effects by taking it near bedtime at the recommended dosage of 50 to 100 mg.

    3. L-THEANINE, a relaxing amino acid found in green tea, is available as a supplement. L-theanine induces a sense of calm in people with anxiety. At typical dosages (100-200 mg) L-theanine does not act as a sedative, but it does significantly improve sleep quality. That makes it a good supporter of melatonin and 5-HTP. At higher single dosages (400 mg) L-theanine does act as a sedative. I like L-theanine the best for children.

    4. GAMMA-AMINOBUTYRIC ACID (GABA) is a natural calming and antiepileptic agent in the brain. In fact, it is one of the brain’s most important regulators of proper function. It appears that many people with anxiety, insomnia, epilepsy, and other brain disorders do not manufacture sufficient levels of GABA. PharmaGABA is a special form of GABA naturally manufactured with the help of a probiotic (Lactobacillus hilgardii) that has been shown to improve sleep quality.

    There are a lot of reasons to try to get a good night sleep without resorting to prescription sleeping pills. These pills are habit forming, have significant side effects, and are associated with increasing the risk of dementia and earlier death. For more information, go to Doctormurray.com and download my free book on Stress, Anxiety, and Insomnia – What the Drug Companies won’t Tell You and Your Doctor Doesn’t Know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by See the Light View Post
    The brain is a complex muscle and a very sensitive chemically controlled part of us. Alcohol is known to upset these natural balances. I have collected a bunch of different links over the last few months (below is just a sample, I have a Word doc full of them) and have tried most of things here at some point with varying results. I recently ran my current mix of supplements by my doctor, and if you are using or plan to use any of these in any combination you should also consult a physician (as if you were taking medication) as some things depend on your current liver, kidney or other health conditions. Either way, thought it may be helpful to have these in one place…Please add anything you feel valuable or any other comments or experiences for the benefit of others is surely appreciated……

    Anxiety and/or Aggression

    Magnesium
    Got anxiety? You may be deficient in magnesium -- Health & Wellness -- Sott.net

    Glycine
    Health Benefits, Supplements, Side Effects of Glycine

    L-Theanine
    Theanine For Anxiety

    L – TRYPTOPHAN
    L-TRYPTOPHAN: Uses, Side Effects, Interactions and Warnings - WebMD


    5-HTP
    Can 5-HTP really curb depression and anxiety? - NaturalNews.com

    Vitamin B-6
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15479988

    Picamilon
    http://altmedicine.about.com/od/herb.../Picamilon.htm

    Phenibut
    http://www.phenibutforanxiety.com/ph...ialanxiety.php

    GABA
    http://overcomingyouranxiety.net/nat...a-for-anxiety/




    Depression


    Vitamin B-12
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/46...or-depression/

    Folate (or Folic Acid or Vitamin B-9)
    http://www.bidmc.org/YourHealth/Ther...?ChunkID=40045

    Sam-e
    http://www.lef.org/magazine/2007/4/report_same/page-01

    EPA Omega-3
    http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/...ession-fighter

    Magnesium
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...nal-chill-pill

    Creatine
    http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-caw080612.php

    Glycine
    Health Benefits, Supplements, Side Effects of Glycine

    Zinc
    http://holisticprimarycare.net/topic...hink-zinc.html

    Iodine
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/36...nd-depression/

    Vitamin B-6
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15479988

    St. John’s Wort
    http://www.allaboutdepression.com/med_15.html



    Alcohol Cravings/ Withdrawal


    L-Glutamine
    http://www.l-glutaminebenefits.com/l-glutamine-alcohol/

    Thiamine (Vitamin B1)
    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...tural/965.html

    Kudzu extract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15298764

    Magnesium
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23740536

    Chromium Picolinate
    http://www.vitaminsource.com/Product...wal%2F~default
    ..pass it on..

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    Thank you, SeeTheLight, its a great source of info.
    Enlightened by MWO

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    Thanks BeachGirly for the post. Where did you get the liver cleanse please?

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    Important to understand the effects of this chemical on our brain. Alcohol can be a demon.

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