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      Simple living

      Drinking makes life so complicated. Our health suffers, our relationships become toxic or at the very least unhealthy, we lose our passion, and our finances take a beating. It takes time to put everything right again after getting sober. Now that I have some AF time behind me, I realize that I need to concentrate on the day-to-day details. I ignored a lot of things during my drinking years, and created a real mess that I now need to clean up. But this post is about more than just being practical, although that feels good for a change, it's about living an authentic life - one based on our internal values, not what we've been sold.

      So I wondered if anyone was interested in sharing ideas about living a more simple, organic, holistic, and sustainable life. I would be grateful to hear any and all suggestions.

      These are things I have been trying to incorporate into my life:

      1. Support my local farmers. I'm lucky - I live in farm country. I found a new indoor market yesterday that allows me to buy ethically raised meat, dairy and eggs from a local farm. I am grateful.

      2. Open my damn mail!! During my drinking years, I was an ostrich about my finances and that was a disaster. I had bill collectors climbing all over me due to my financial neglect. It was awful and of my own doing. As many of you know, I lost everything including my house. No more of that nonsense. Now, I open, read, and address everything that comes to my mailbox. As dumb as it sounds, this was my biggest challenge. I was too afraid to deal with my bills because of past experiences, so I just didn't bother. Not advised. I now have a cute, decorated bag that holds bills to be paid (makes it more palatable), and a shredder that takes care of junk mail. This a daily ritual for me.

      3. As an extension to the above - I no longer buy things I don't need. No more impulse shopping. I make a list and I stick to it. If I want something (and that's ok), I must be able to comfortably afford it first. If not, I need to save until I can. Absolutely no credit whatsoever. I have to say, the few "want" purchases I have made lately have been very rewarding because I have had to wait for them. And for the first time in my life, my savings account is growing. That is fun. I also decluttered my home recently, so I have a fresh start.

      3. Grow my own. This is a new hobby for me, but I invested in a few grow lights and have converted a spare bedroom into an indoor garden - microgreens and herbs all winter long. It keeps me busy, and it's all organic. This summer, I will have a nice 20 x 20 ft. plot in an organic community garden. I plan to learn to can. That way I can enjoy my harvest all through the winter, and will be less reliant on big agribusiness.

      4. Reach out to people. This was another hard one for me. I'm an introvert by nature, so it's easy for me to climb into a shell and shut others out. Now, I answer my phone. I make calls. I make plans. It's working out quite well. I heard from both of my sons today. A simple phone call and I realized that life doesn't get any better that

      So - how have you simplified your life? I want to hear everything. This is my new passion. Living, cooking, gardening, finances - all of it. I spend quite a bit of time on websites and forums discussing these issues, but I thought it would be nice to bring this discussion to MWO. Here are a few sites I visit daily and recommend:

      http://frugallysustainable.com/

      http://www.diynatural.com/

      http://wellnessmama.com/

      http://vickirobin.com/ (co-author of "Your Money or Your Life" A life-transforming book)

      Peace to you all. xx, Moss

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      No kidding, an indoor garden? Would love to hear more about this, Moss. Got a photo?

      Interesting thread you've started.
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      Hi - I am VERY interested in this as well. I dont have time to jot down ideas and things I am thinking - but I will get some thoughts together and share.

      Funny story - I took a book out of the library regarding simple living. I had to renew it 3 times because I did not have the time to read it.... obviously not living the way I wanted.

      More later - thanks for bringing this topic up.

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      Pie - I have photos. I will upload them when I figure out how to do it. I basically am growing culinary herbs. So far, I have had success with rosemary (brought in from outside), cilantro, chives, parsley, and thyme. However, my basil isn't doing very well. I have a few leaves hanging on, but no real new growth. hmmmm? Don't know what I am doing wrong. I bought a new basil plant today, and am hoping this does better than my seedlings. Very disappointing since I love basil. The new batch of microgreens hasn't germinated yet. I'll take pics when they start growing. I bought the seeds and lights from a store in a nearby town that specializes in growing hydroponically. That's not my thing, but wow - it's a cool shop - and their displays are awe inspiring.

      BG - using the library is a part of simple living. I can't believe I didn't think of that. I worked in public libraries for years, so I know their value. Good for you. I can't wait to hear more of your thoughts.

      I know this thread probably seems out of place on MWO. When I first quit drinking, I felt listless. I had no passion...just hours to kill until I could go to sleep. I just didn't know what to do with myself. Now, I want to fill those hours with meaningful activities. That is why I started this thread. I meant for this to be a place where we could ponder the future - without AL. A simpler life where anything is possible.
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      Yo Mossy and everyone,

      What a great thread idea. Sure does have a place here i reckon.

      I have found i need to keep my life simple and tackle what i can handle, instead of having too much on my plate and so not doing anything!

      At 22 days AF, i feel i need to ramp up my commitment to my AF self. Today i had a bit of a scare, as in i got very very close to throwing it in and getting grog, but i went for my scheduled run instead, and all fab now. I left my run later in the day than usual, and lounged about. I allowed some negative thinking to take hold, but a run soon fixed that. What i learned about myself today, was that i need to get running shoes on and myself out the door a lot sooner than i have been, and just get the exercise done early so as i'm set up mentally for a great day.

      Another thing i want to get hardcore about is fruit and veg, and lot's of it daily. I've been doing better on this score, but it's been frozen veg from the supermarket, not the fresher market stuff. There's a big market in town, so i'm gonna load up on bulk cheap fruit and veg. I suppose i'll have to freeze some if i buy a weeks supply, or cook then freeze? Any suggestions?

      Thanks for listening, hope i'm not waffling too much.

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      Moss - I don't know much about growing plants indoors but basil likes sun, heat and likes to drink water. Its a very temperamental plant. Sorry also to waffle.
      I started making homemade ice-cream when I got sober but that sounds a bit decadent doesn't it?

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      Quote Originally Posted by MossRose View Post
      Pie - I have photos. I will upload them when I figure out how to do it. I basically am growing culinary herbs. So far, I have had success with rosemary (brought in from outside), cilantro, chives, parsley, and thyme. However, my basil isn't doing very well. I have a few leaves hanging on, but no real new growth. hmmmm? Don't know what I am doing wrong. I bought a new basil plant today, and am hoping this does better than my seedlings. Very disappointing since I love basil. The new batch of microgreens hasn't germinated yet. I'll take pics when they start growing. I bought the seeds and lights from a store in a nearby town that specializes in growing hydroponically. That's not my thing, but wow - it's a cool shop - and their displays are awe inspiring.

      BG - using the library is a part of simple living. I can't believe I didn't think of that. I worked in public libraries for years, so I know their value. Good for you. I can't wait to hear more of your thoughts.

      I know this thread probably seems out of place on MWO. When I first quit drinking, I felt listless. I had no passion...just hours to kill until I could go to sleep. I just didn't know what to do with myself. Now, I want to fill those hours with meaningful activities. That is why I started this thread. I meant for this to be a place where we could ponder the future - without AL. A simpler life where anything is possible. If we can dream it - we can do it.

      Nice thread MossRoss, thanks!

      Very important question: every year I bring the rosemary in and is ir dead as a door nail a few months later.
      Tips please! Thanks!
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      Oh, and in the spirit of this thread I started a yoga practice and ended my gym membership.

      Just using a YouTube video, 30 days for beginners.
      No its not a kick butt workout but reminds me to make time for one hearty dog walk a day.
      (AF since 17 May 2014) 2 years 5 months sober

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      Hi,
      I know I said I would get some thoughts together and post.
      Busy week with meetings, and then working afternoon shift - so sorry, this is just a short one .
      My #1 thing I clean eating.
      Try to eat locally grown, in season,.
      This does a few things - it is better for me, healthier and fresher and not GM products or meat.
      It also helps the local farmer and keeps money in the community.
      I read a mag/ website called CleanEating. Lots of healthy tips.
      I also follow a FB group that has a 100 day challenge to eliminate all processed food from our diets.
      - freezer cooking in batches, so I am not in the kitchen forever, and can get out and exercise or have fun with my son.
      More later - looking forward to others ideas as well.
      Thx
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      Moss, I agree with G-Man, this is a great idea for a thread! Just being AF isn't the only way to healthy living, there is so much more to it!

      I'll add a few things about growing your own....a very good friend of mine used to own/operate a commercial vegetable greenhouse, lettuce, tomatoes, English cucumbers. When Bubba and I built the solarium/greenhouse on the side of my toolroom seacan, I went straight to Rick for advice. The three most important things to plants, especially herbs, is light, water, and food. Light is not something we can do much about unless we get into grow-lamps, water - never use city tap water for your plants! The chlorine/floride will most certainly stunt them if not outright kill them. Collect rain water and save it in plastic containers, also a good way to recycle all the pop/water plastic bottles we use, or buy bottled water. Plant food/fertilizer - use natural or organic products whenever possible, I can't remember off the top of my head the brand name Rick suggested and we use, but it is mostly made of seaweed and fish poop, not the best smelling, but my tomatoes are usually softball size and very "meaty", my English cucumbers average 24" long by 2" in diameter. Bubba's herbs grow good both inside and out, the only one, spearmint, didn't seem to like our cooler outdoor evening temps, but did very well inside. So if you have any questions that Google can't seem to answer, I'll see if my friend can help.

      As far as storage/freezing goes, buy a vacumn packer! It doesn't have to be an expensive one, but all your fresh veggies, meats, leftovers, will last so much longer in the freezer if they are vacumn packed first. Fresh fish should be frozen in water, again recylce here, use your margarine, whipped cream, etc. containers. Put the fresh fish in, fill with bottled water, put the lid on and freeze. Again, use bottled water whenever possible to avoid contaminating your food with the chemical additives in city tap water.

      I can't think of much more to add right now, but I'm sure more will come to me as I read the thread. Bubba and I are very health oriented when it comes to our food. We buy all our meats whenever possible, beef, pork, chicken, from local farmers so we know that it is hormone/steroid free. Of course, that is easy for those of us who live in rural/farming areas. We also hunt, not trophy hunt, but hunt for food. Nothing is more organic than fresh wild meat! As a matter of fact, I spent Saturday and Sunday curing, spicing, and smoking 10lbs of moose jerky. We also make our own hamburger and sausage. This is where the vacumn packer shines to preserve all of our meats!

      Also, I am a journeyman plumber, gasfitter, a/c tech, hvac mechanic, and locksmith. As I have been in the trades for 40 plus years, I do have knowledge in most of the construction trades, so if I can help in any of those areas, give me a shout....
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