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    Ne/Neva Eva;1423219 wrote: And the fact that he makes money (apparently a lot of money? But I doubt it.) helping people with baclofen is something I can totally understand. And frankly, support.
    Thank God you said that, I was beginning to think I'd slipped into an alternate universe where where it was wrong to make a living. Does Phil help alcoholics no longer drink alcoholically? That's the only question I consider relevant. I have no knowledge of anything that may or may not have happened in the past regarding him and this forum. It's history. Let's look to the future.

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    ifulovelife2;1423240 wrote: Let's look to the future.
    Hey Man, As usual I'm with you all the way. Hope all is well. Cass

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    I thought I would add my own thoughts. Ive been reading mywayout for a long time and found it very interesting.
    Im a psychiatric nurse with a bad drink problem. All due to anxiety and self doubt and low self esteem. Ive lost my wife and children and home and job through it.
    There is clearly a lot of excellent people here, and a lot of friendship and support. But I do have concerns about the “pseudo-medical” advice handed out.
    After years of failure with AA, and taking Campral, I finally lost my nursing registration.
    Desperately I trawled the internet and came across baclofen4alcoholism. I had seen bad stuff written about Dr Phill here, but thought this might be my last chance so, with reservations, I phoned him. To be honest, I couldn’t believe it. He answered personally and we had a long chat. He was so friendly and open: even about what had happened to him. Ive been under a lot of doctors and “alcoholism specialists”, but this really was like talking to someone who really understood.
    As he says “it takes one to know one”.
    I started under the whole of his excellent programme about 3 months ago. He told me that it would all get a bit boring after about 6 or 8 weeks because he was sure he would get me well by then. I didn’t believe a word, but it was my last chance.
    And he was right. I have followed his programme fully. I send him a diary every day and speak to him at 4pm every day. He has always read my diary by then and manipulated my Baclofen accordingly.
    After 6 weeks, I was on 120mg taken at the best times of day for me. The last 6 weeks has been “boring”!!!! I have no cravings, but occasional thoughts that I can easily control. I still go to the pub, but it is for the social aspect, not to get drunk.
    My grown up children cant believe that they have got their “dad back”. They have never seen me so well and in control.
    Im now so well that I am applying to have my registration reinstated, and Dr Phill is doing all he can to help that happen.
    Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but I cant speak too highly about him.

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    AZ, you misunderstood me - I was arguing that Dr. Phill is doing well.

    Your link do obesity operations is unfortunate. Out of the frying pan into the fire?
    Weight Loss Surgery Increases Risk of Alcohol Addiction in Some - ABC News

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    ArizonaMan;1424511 wrote: Why?

    Im doing a PhD in astrophysics and me and Dr Phill talk about a lot of things.
    He sees obesity as very similar to alcoholism and I think he's right.
    His program uses food as a drug to help beat the drink problem. And it works.
    The problem is that addiction to one substance or activity can more easily lead to addiction to another. The wisdom of the addiction industry is that if you are trying to stop cocaine, alcohol, or whatever , don't think you can get away with a different drug. I am inclined to agree with their opinion.

    Replacing over-eating with a predisposition to alcoholism is very questionable advice. If Phill's advice is simply to enjoy good food then I don't have a problem but if he thinks being seriously overweight is a viable alternative to the bottle.....

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    You have missed the "if"s

    If Phill's advice is simply to enjoy good food then I don't have a problem but if he thinks being seriously overweight is a viable alternative to the bottle.....

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    He's done me a lot of good. And he did do it in 6 weeks as he said he could, We chat about 3 times a week now, because I'm stable on 120mg. Initially it was a daily consultation, but I dont need that now.

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    Serial deletion

    A serial deleter has been at work with the downside that my comments don't make too much sense.
    The upside is that AZ seems a much more credible individual.

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    Have all posts on all threads by ArizonaMan been removed?
    Is this phenomenon "avatarial suicide"?
    Will we ever know whether ArizonaMan was a ringer for Dr. Phill?

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    The way it works, as far as I can tell, is that there are a couple of people who can (and do) get the notice of the moderator(s?) of this site.

    AZman, and others, were not shills. Phill helped them. They were/are sharing the information. The person(s) who were last involved may have notified the administrator. Then all the posts by AZman, and even his username, were deleted.

    Fair and balanced? I'll leave it to you to decide for yourself. Particularly since it is very (very!) rarely anyone from the meds threads that actually gets threads in the med section deleted and/or people banned from MWO. In fact, in my couple of years here, that's never happened. Whereas people have been banned and threads have been completely deleted only after involvement from people who are not actively involved in the meds sections, and don't take meds, and some of whom are still drinking.

    just sayin'

    (Oh, and I'll delete this shortly so as not to get banned myself. There's really no telling who it happens to or why it happens.)

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