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    Re: Couple questions on titrating off at 120 mg/day and nootropics

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    @Mom2JTx3 - this thread use of Fasoracetam in conjunction with Baclofen, may help with memory / amnesia got me interested in Fasoracetam. It apparently helps with baclofen memory lapses.

    Piracetam needs to be taken with a choline source, just FYI! I found that when I took it, I felt much sharper.
    @_serenity_, You're saying Fasoracetam works well with Baclofen? It doesn't combat the effectiveness or absorption of Baclofen?

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    @haltme, *I* am not saying that! The post that I linked had a quote that said that fasoracetam could possibly block the memory lapses. Bac has long played havoc with my short-term memory. I have thought about experimenting with fasoracetam to see it it helped.

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    Re: Couple questions on titrating off at 120 mg/day and nootropics

    Sorry to bring back an old thread to life, but has anybody of you tried actually use fasoracetam to taper down baclofen? And how was it?


    Thank you very much!

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    Re: Couple questions on titrating off at 120 mg/day and nootropics

    @_serenity_ ,

    I'm curious about the memory issues. I'd felt some possibly similar feelings - but never put it together with baclofen.

    So I asked professor google, and while there are many 'thoughts' out there, much of the proper research I found* suggested no or negligible impact.

    What are your thoughts? Experiences? (Assuming you can remember them...)

    George Smiley

    *On tiny groups of humans (eg n=5) or rats, so make of it what you will.

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    Re: Couple questions on titrating off at 120 mg/day and nootropics

    Hi @georgesmiley,

    It's pretty common for people who are titrating up on baclofen, or who are on higher doses of baclofen, to have memory issues. I remember way back in 2010 when I was titrating up, I was told on here to make a plan for my doses because I would get to the point where I'd forget whether I'd taken it yet, how much I'd taken etc. I was told to set phone alarms or to divide up my daily doses in advance so I wouldn't forget to take them. And I definitely noticed issues with my memory, especially at my switch dose (190 mgs/day). That was a large reason why I wanted to taper down after reaching indifference (which I did and promptly relapsed--it took some time for me to find a happy medium). To this day, I put my baclofen into one of those "day of the week" pill boxes. A few years ago I went through a phase in which I took my entire dosage once a day (I do not recommend this and don't do it anymore). I believe I was taking 140 mgs/day. One day I took my pills, forgot about it, and took 140 mgs a second time. I got so sick. Baclofen ODs are no fun...

    Odd that the studies haven't showed a link, because it was a common side effect and was widely reported around these parts. I wouldn't call what I experienced memory loss, it was more like memory lapses. But they were very noticeable.

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    Re: Couple questions on titrating off at 120 mg/day and nootropics

    That's excellent, @_serenity_ - as ever.

    It's just so valuable to have experiences. And 'studies' = rats + 5 humans, as far as I can tell. I suppose the real issue is that the scientific/medical community refuses to engage with the doses of baclofen that we use.

    May I ask a personal question? No obligation to answer it. When you relapsed, did you go back to being a daily drunk? Or to drinking more than zero, or more than you wanted, but not as much as before? As I said, no requirement to answer! Thank you, as always, for your thoughts.

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