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    My ten year baclofen anniversary

    I just have time for a short post tonight but wanted to celebrate a personal milestone. I recently read through my "bac diary" thread and remembered that December 15, 2010 was the first day I took baclofen.

    Ten years ago today.

    Prior to finding MWO, I had found an article in The Guardian while researching medications that might help me find relief from my horrible drinking problem. I had been through years of hell, two stints in rehab, a lost career, a foreclosure, the works. When I read that article, I somehow *knew* that baclofen would be my salvation, and I set out to get my hands on a prescription. I did some more research which led me to My Way Out, and to a Chicago doctor who (at the time) offered phone consultations and baclofen prescriptions to pretty much anyone who asked for help. Dr. Levin and the My Way Out community were my absolute saviors. I spent two months titrating up my dosage before reaching indifference, also known as "the switch" in early 2011.

    What an unbelievable miracle this drug has been! It erased a huge amount of my chronic anxiety and silenced that endless craving for alcohol. I didn't think that was possible.

    When I have more time to post, I will try to follow up with some advice for people who stumble onto this website and are interested in trying baclofen. I regard myself as something of an old-timer in the baclofen world, and have seen many people come and go on this forum and others. The success stories definitely have some common threads.

    But tonight, I just wanted to share how very grateful I am. For this website, for all the supportive friends I've made through this website over the years, and for that little pill that changed my life.

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    Re: My ten year baclofen anniversary

    Congratulations on finding your way out, @Serenity. Take care, NS


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    Re: My ten year baclofen anniversary

    @Serenity - found your way out !!!
    Do you still take the pill ?
    Asking for a friend
    Benji ....
    Doing it my way


    .... the joy of being sober never gets old !!

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    Re: My ten year baclofen anniversary

    Thank you so much @NoSugar!
    @satz123 - I have realized that I may have to take this drug for the rest of my life, and that's OK. The drug has done wonders for my chronic anxiety and for my cravings, and I don't want those to creep back into my life. I don't have any side effects from it and my blood work is perfect, so I figure I'll just keep letting it do the job it's been doing so well.

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    Re: My ten year baclofen anniversary

    Thank you, @_serenity_ . Your posts (I read a lot of them) were a real help. And it's thanks to the 'old timers' that people like me can still discover this potential pathway.

    You beat a path for us all to follow. I only wish it was more widely available. You have to overcome a lot of obstacles to try this. You need to digest all the literature, make all the plans to purchase/stockpile (and we're all great at making plans, right? Except, of course, I always had planning abilities enough to have booze in the house), navigate all the *insanely*-priced websites to find the cheap, reliable ones, know how to cope with the side effects, etc. to get where we need to be. It's great that the odd doctor here and there will do a phone consult and prescribe, but that costs 100s to do privately.

    The pills are, at least, much cheaper than booze. A bottle of wine is about 7; a litre of gin is 15 (and pound per unit is how I thought!); 150mg of baclofen is about 1.90 a day. So although building the stocks is expensive, once you're rolling, it's way cheaper than booze - even if you were at 300mg a day.

    Many counsel against doing it 'on your own,' but that's what I did and I would not counsel against it - provided you're on board with the whole process. I would advocate giving it a go. But understand this: it's a proooooceeeeesssssss. Loooooong...

    Initially, I was surprised when @Baclofenman said he would not recommend offering it more widely to his GP. I thought, 'Why hold back on this thing?' But in fact, baclofen is not a cure, it seems to me.

    I would say (and this is just my view, so please shoot me down) that it's more like a vehicle to go on a journey. A GP should not prescribe a car to everyone who comes to her clinic with a mobility problem. To use a car, you need a licence, insurance, road tax. I don't think that I could just have been given baclofen in a 10-minute consult with an info-sheet and told to give it a go. It requires a lote more investment than that.

    So there must be something like a half-way house in the medical community: where GPs can give out the factsheet (something like Dr Amanda Stafford's), let people mull it over, see what they want to do with it, see how they come back with it, maybe use it in group settings (not for 'therapeutic chat' group meetings, but more so busy GPs can deal with 10 drunks in an hour without all their BS). I can certainly see that you have to really want to go the baclofen route. Like learning to drive a car, you have to pass a theory test, you have to experiment a lot, you have to practice, you have to really keep at it - and also like driving a car, you need to understand that once you've got the 'knack', you can't be cocky and let your guard down.

    So, thanks again @_serenity_ , @Baclofenman , @Cassander . You blazed a trail. And right now, I'm very grateful to you. I wish you a happy Christmas, and a much happier, healthier 2021.
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    Re: My ten year baclofen anniversary

    Hi, I just ordered Baclofen. I was just thinking about how much of this I will have to order online every month to keep it in supply. I'm going to just guesstimate from what I've read, that the typical dose at which one reaches 'indifference' at is around 150mg day. So that's about 6 days with a bottle of 100 10mg pills. I placed orders in with 3 different vendors just in the last couple days. All Day Chemist, the UK one just just spoke of, and another one based in Canada. The cheapest one is the unitedpharamcies.uk.md site. They change $19 for 100 10mg pills. So I'll need to order probably 5 bottles every month. So about $95 a month. plus $75 on DHL shipping. I guess once I get started and get a supply built up, I don't need the DHL because I can wait longer to get it. I spent about $420 on beer last month, so the Bac is relatively cheap. I worry a lot though about depending on international shipping every month, what if I suddenly cannot get any more of it? Looking for a dr. here to prescribe, but in the USA, I think it's probably very unlikely. The 3 doctors I've asked so far really balked at prescribing anything off label. None of them had ever heard about it. _serenity_ told me about one near here, but it's in another state, so I'm not sure, but I'm going to give that one a call once I get started on it. I read the prescribing guide, so I think I have a fairly good idea of how to get started, thanks again, _serenity_, for all your help.

    I probably should mention that from what I've read in your post, I drink a LOT more than you do, and saying I've had enough tonight has never happened to me in the past decade. I drink until I pass out, every single night. Really hoping this works for me. I enjoyed reading your posts, very informative.
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    Re: My ten year baclofen anniversary

    Hi Journeyer
    Just a note of caution, I also ordered Baclofen from unitedpharmacies.uk on the 4th of Feb, I had an email the following day saying that they were unable to process my credit card, (which I know is good), and wanted me to pay by Bitcoin or International bank transfer...I thought this was highly suspect so I told them to cancel. I've found a clinic here in London that prescribe and do online consultations, I don't know if it would work in the 'States, but they are called The Harpal Clinic in London EC4 if you want to google them. I'm wishing you the very best of luck with your Baclofen, I'm on day 13 and upto 35 mgs, I've really taken on board the universal advice on here to titrate the dose really slowly to avoid the worst side effects and so far I've been ok although still drinking but probably only half as much pre-Baclofen so I'm really hopeful.
    kind regards and very best wishes

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    Re: My ten year baclofen anniversary

    Thanks for the info. I'll check out the clinic. Doubt it would work for here because here it's hard for doctors to even practice across state lines here.

    I didn't have any problems, yet, with Unitedpharm UK. It took a few days for them to respond to me, but once they did, they've been very responsive every time I've contacted them. They've already shipped it and I have tracking. I used DHL, which is expensive, but they are really fast. I used the wire transfer, which is a pain to setup for international, but once you have it setup, that's it. If I get this, I only ordered 200 10mg tablets, but if I get it, I'm going to order a lot more bottles immediately. They're offering a 10% for orders over $200 and they're already way cheaper than anyone else I've found.

    But if you have a script, that's the best way. Getting one here in my state in the USA is somewhere between impossible and extremely unlikely. I talked to 3 different doctors here and they looked at me like I'm insane.
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    Re: My ten year baclofen anniversary

    My order with them went badly, because it didn't clear customs today. So I don't know if they send it back or just trash it. Either way, I won't be seeing it, bummer. First time I've ever tried to order medication online, and probably the last.

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    Re: My ten year baclofen anniversary

    Hi there,

    I've successfully ordered baclofen from Welcome to United Pharmacies (UK) and from Extrapharmacy Online Store . Both have been reliable over the long term.

    Extrapharmacy package the stuff up in foil, then vacuum pack it, then label it as spare parts for an ioniser. Worth a shot?

    I would encourage you to keep going. It's a remarkable drug. But as you note, you need to build up a supply cushion to smooth out delivery problems.

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