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    Re: Need to make contact with others using baclofen

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    Quick update,

    As of today I am on 365 mg a day, I go up another 5 mg every Sunday here in Australia. It is happening as meant to, I am starting to switch and the onset seems rapid with every new titration. I can't drink any more than 5 beers of a night when I am home alone, I had a visitor last night and thought I'd open a sixth. I had 2 mouthfuls and tipped the rest down the sink. I physically just don't have it in me to want to drink any more than this. It's easy to put the last beer down and as I tip them down the sink I wonder why I even opened the last one, I guess that even though the bac is working as it does I have some neural pathway stuff which is still trying to catch up to the new normal.

    I will probably post more often as this process plays out, it is hard to find switch stories on here using the search function. It's a word which has been used so often over the years. Certainly wishing there was the level of interaction there was on here many years ago, @guardian and @_serenity_ if you guys are around your input will be greatly appreciated.

    Until next time,

    Steve.
    Thats all great news. Are you merely drinking out of habit at this point? Or is there a strong compulsion each day still? Have you tried taking a night off yet?
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    Re: Need to make contact with others using baclofen

    @guardian I think it is more out of habit, this job I am doing is super stressful and when I come home I go straight for a beer.

    I haven't tried for a night off completely, I'm not in the headspace to do this. I am seriously considering looking for another job, the whole of the last 3 months has been ridiculous to say the least. I have been doing this sort of thing for the best part of 20 years and this organisation is without a doubt the the worst onboarding I have ever been exposed to. I can't switch off and having a few beers seems to help.

    370 mg a day as of 2 days ago, it will be interesting to see how my drinking changes over the next week. I tipped most of the 5th beer down the sink last night.

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    Re: Need to make contact with others using baclofen

    Quick update,

    375mg as of Sunday Aussie time, I can only drink four beers. I opened a 5th last night and tipped it down the sink after a mouthful or two.

    The night before that I woke up in the morning and found the 5th still sitting on the bench with only a mouthful taken out of it.

    The pharmacist is the problem here, he's the one who stuffed me up with my last doctor. When I picked up my scripts yesterday he treated me like he suspected I had a problem and looked at me very disapprovingly, I am considering ordering online again in case I have any problems.

    I'm so close.

    Cheers Steve.

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    Re: Need to make contact with others using baclofen

    Quick update,

    So the pharmacist is scaring me, I live with c-PTSD from childhood trauma...hence my life of AUD and other drug addictions. I present really well and most people would never know, it is how I have been able to create a career and have managed to stay away from most mental health systems; instead I work in them. That being said I quietly live with all the recognised traits. The pharmacist has already caused terrible fractures in my life which will most likely never be mended. I got a new script filled today, I am going through a bottle of 25 mg bac a week at the moment with the 10's lasting approx a week and a half. I know he is just doing his job but I don't think he understands how bac has changed my life and if he was to cause any new issues I could possibly be plunged deep into withdrawal.

    To mitigate the situation I have begun to titrate down again, 5 mg every three days starting about five days ago. I am on 370 mg a day at the moment with my next drop tomorrow to 365. I have also put an order in to Goldpharma and Inhouse to hopefully keep my supply up and lessen the amount of times I use the prescriptions. It will take about two weeks for the Inhouse to get here which are 10's and about a month for the Goldpharma which are the 25's. Once they arrive I will be able to cut down the amount of times I have to go into the chemist to something they see as more acceptable.

    The upside is I am seeing no change in my drinking due to the smaller dose so far, how long this lasts I don't know? I do suspect the switch was already taking effect far before I hit 375 and hopefully I won't have to go down much further.

    I am tipping most of my 5th beer down the sink and the indifference has not changed, I am sleeping really well and wake up feeling fresh. This is a far cry from what I had gone through whilst titrating up; insomnia, nausea and a bunch of different SE's associated with HDB. It has been a two year mission for me because of dealing with doctors and the pharmacist, titrating up and then down, and then up and down again to satisfy my doctors. Getting really sick, which is still undiagnosed in March/April last year was another factor which caused my doctor to freak out, it took the best part of 10 months to recover...and was the the catalyst for me beginning to post in here again.

    With a light at the end of the tunnel and knowing it's not an oncoming train I feel I am so close to switching and living with complete indifference for a second time it scares the crap out of me to think this could be being jeopardised now. My first switch with bac was at about 130 mg a day, I have learned since the second time generally takes a lot more which in my case has proven to be true, even though I am completely comfortable with this it is apparent the pharmacist is not.

    I see my doctor again on the 13th of next month and although he has been supportive he may prove to be otherwise when I tell him what I am on now, I was on 270 when I spoke to him about this last.

    I could be overthinking the whole situation and hope I am. I have found writing all this therapeutic though and hope to have better things to report next time.

    Cheers Steve.

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    Re: Need to make contact with others using baclofen

    Quick update,

    360 at the moment, 355 tomorrow. Still can't drink any more than 4-5 beers with the 5th mostly being tipped down the sink. I'm hoping my orders from overseas arrive quicker than they did previously now most of the airlines and whatever shipping modalities used are all back in full swing.

    Back to the pharmacist tomorrow no matter what, I'm sure to be greeted with an opprobrious expression. It is what it is.

    Cheers Steve.

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    Re: Need to make contact with others using baclofen

    Quick update,

    I'm on 345, still can't drink any more than 5 beers and tipping most of the 5th down the sink. My orders from overseas have both arrived, with the order from Goldpharma arring quicker than the Inhouse which has never happened before. It used to take a month minimum for Goldpharma to arrive and it was here in just over 2 weeks.

    Time to start heading up again.

    I saw my doctor the other day and he was supportive saying he didn't mind I was on 375 and the pharmacist can talk to him if he has any issues, I told him I had ordered from overseas to minimise any dramas; he was nonchalant. He understood why I did it and told me he didn't mind either way. He did liken baclofen to methadone indicating to me he was nowhere near as informed as he would like to have me believe, I knew this from my initial visit to him. I quickly explained why baclofen is nothing like methadone again, whether he listened or not doesn't really matter he was happy to hear how well it was working.

    Something I've noticed over the last month or so which is interesting is I am not only drinking less I have also cut down my smoking and sugar consumption, I have always had 2 sugars in my morning coffees but now I find it too much and only have about a quarter of a teaspoon. Whether these things are linked to the baclofen or something psychological I don't know, but as the GABAb receptor is linked to toxic pleasures (quick layman's description) I do wonder if baclofen is also causing an indifference to these other things as well.

    Until next time,

    Steve.
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    Hey. So I saw your updates on the other threads, but nothing specifically about how things are going with you. Housing? Cat? It seems like indifference is approaching, but you're still titrating up? And how in the world are you juggling all of that with work?

    And sorry for being such a Debbie-Downer yesterday.

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    Re: Need to make contact with others using baclofen

    Quick update,

    365 this week, still tipping most of the 5th beer down the sink. I should just not open it but at the time I feel like I could go another one, it winds up going warm and I've only had a few mouthfuls at the most. Not a lot has changed in the drinking department, it is good to be heading back up towards where I was before the pharmacist started making me worried he was going to cause issues again. I have been going to the same chemist for years and when he started stressing again I know he talked about it with his staff which I find inappropriate, the younger ones especially were looking at me differently to what had been the norm for so long. I suspect they were told straight out or overheard a conversation with the 2 main pharmacists, it's been weird going in there ever since.

    @Ne/Neva Eva I am in another AirBNB, it is much closer to work and Toshi is with me. He seems far more comfortable here, the other one was a working farm and there was a lot of noise (tractors and general farm sorts of things) and spent most of the week hiding in a cupboard. Toshi is the sort of cat who sees a cupboard door, or any door really whether it opens out or slides as a worthy challenge which he's up to. He is so persistent that there are not many doors he can't eventually open, he's like a reverse Houdini trying to get in instead of out. Anyway this place is half the price of the other one and i'm saving money on petrol. I am here until Monday next week which would be Sunday your time.

    The good news is I have secured a place as of yesterday, it's smack bang in an area which was worst affected by the floods but fingers crossed it doesn't happen again any time soon. It's only a 6 month lease but it will give me 6 months to plan my next move instead of a week at a time in AirBNB expensive accommodation. It's a private rental which came my way through the local cat refuge, I'm friends with the owner and the house owner was telling her she had bought a house out of the flood zone and needed to rent her other one out, preferably to someone with an animal. I got a call and went to look at it straight away, it went well but I had to wait to see if everything was going to fall into place with her home loan as it wasn't finalised yet. The owner, my new landlord messaged me yesterday morning to say everything was going ahead and she'd already been in touch with my referees; the place was mine if I'd like it. We spoke last night and I am signing the lease after work today and moving in next week. The state and federal governments have decided they will offer buy backs to people who were affected by the floods, her house is one who will be bought by the government allowing people buy another property in a safer area higher up and out of potential disaster areas. There's more to say but I have to get ready for work, it is good news nonetheless and now I hope/pray or whatever we don't have another event like we did earlier this year.

    Work has been hard through all of this, but I have a good line manager who is being flexible. I have had to take a fair bit of time off to organise everything over the last few weeks, the organisation is getting uppity about it though and they're wanting me to be doing full days. They can wait, for an organisation which specialises in working with very sick people with MH issues, they are not congruent when it comes to the mental health of their team members. There are certain things which need to be done to continue securing funding through ministry of health and me taking all this time off is not helping tick some of those boxes. It's a big charade, they care more about securing the funding than they do anyone we work with and their own team. As of next week I will be back in full swing and they can wait a bit longer.

    I think that covers everything, I'm a little less stressed and life continues to march in a forward direction.

    Cheers,

    Steve.
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    So glad to hear that things are going better, @Stevo!

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    Iím so relieved to hear that you and Toshi are together and have a brighter future in the near future.

    I donít want to scare off the newbies, or new guy, as the case may be, but when I got over 300, I was a little wonky, how are you feeling?

    I live in a hurricane zone. I think I mentioned it before? Water is unbelievable. But as u predicatBle as it is, I feel like itís like lightning. It hits the same places over and over again but not consecutively. I was about to get deep about the geology, which is worth noting, but suffice to say, I hope youíll both be comfortable for the foreseeable future.

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