Hi! I’m here again. A small voice still looking for friends on their way out of this

[Mulburry]

gain, checked in sober but didn’t get detox meds for 30 hours. It was…unfortunate. And then only sparingly.

That is unfortunate, there really is no reason to not get the proper medication (if necessary) in the first week, it's a very outdated approach and goes against all the medical science.

Determination I have, I think. Patience, not so much.

Patience in this case was the fact that for me the post-acute withdrawal symptoms lasted for a few months and it took time to get over them. Hopefully you don't have the same issue. Determination really is the key I think. Good luck!

[Ne/Neva Eva]

That is unfortunate, there really is no reason to not get the proper medication (if necessary) in the first week, it's a very outdated approach and goes against all the medical science.


Patience in this case was the fact that for me the post-acute withdrawal symptoms lasted for a few months and it took time to get over them. Hopefully you don't have the same issue. Determination really is the key I think. Good luck!

@Mulburry , my detox was a little bit kerfuffled. I don’t know why, exactly, and it doesn’t matter anymore. But yes, you’re right. And I’m very thankful that I’d had some sober time leading up to checking in so I didn’t have any repercussions, other than wanting to stab a styrofoam spoon into every nurse I talked to.

I was amazed how many people are in denial about their PAWS symptoms. Not me. Had them, they sucked. I’m drinking and not looking forward to experiencing them again.

Did you take baclofen to get sober?

[Mulburry]

was amazed how many people are in denial about their PAWS symptoms. Not me. Had them, they sucked. I’m drinking and not looking forward to experiencing them again.

Ya it's amazing how long it took for them to be recognized in the medical community too. But it's great that these things are becoming accepted more and more."

Did you take baclofen to get sober?

No, I never did. I did a fair amount of research into it, but it wasn't easily available here, and in the end I just took the plunge and did an outpatient detox.

[Cassander]

Well, well, well. Ne, Stevo, serenity and terryk have all checked in. Life is like that, huh? Greetings and best wishes to you all. Cassander

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Well, well, well. Ne, Stevo, serenity and terryk have all checked in. Life is like that, huh? Greetings and best wishes to you all. Cassander

Life is like that, I suppose. Or at least this life with addiction is. But it’s incredibly nice to hear from familiar and friendly voices.

Thanks for checking in. All my best to you and yours.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

I’m headed to my parent’s house for a low key thanksgiving. They’ve been traveling so no one wants to spend any time with them! Ha. So it’ll be just us three, and if that doesn’t push all my buttons, I don’t know what does. Especially since I’m lying, lying, lying about being sober.

but honestly, I don’t know which would be worse for them. Telling the truth would crush them. Telling them that I’ve lied would make them angry, but they’d have me to blame, so that, at least, would make them feel better.

Thanksgiving used to be my favorite holiday, and it’s the only one I participate in on here, because we all have different backgrounds and ideologies. But even if you’re not from the US, you can appreciate the idea of giving thanks and being with family. With no expectations except the gluttony that defines US Americans. Hahaha!

But this year bums me out.

[guardian]

Hi Ne, I've checked in a few times, but between the lack of activity, the notifications not working when there is, and having an intentionally busy, sober life, I just haven't bothered to post or respond. As they say in "the rooms," I'll "Keep coming back."

[Baclofenman]

Also, @Baclofenman are you still around? I think of you often. Xxoo

Hello, I thought of you today. No, not in that way but cos of the shooting in your state I heard about on my wireless this morning. World is a bonkers place babe, I hope you and yours are all safe.

Sorry to make it all about me. But it is for the moment.

Not for long, well like you I became content, actually complacent that I had kicked the booze for good after 2 and a half years AF so a combination of arrogance and house move (to another GP) I came off of Baclofen from 160mg daily which is probably one of the worst decisions I have ever made. I was ok for a few months, although (and this is no excuse) my wife kept buying me Becks Blue, alcohol free which she thought might make me feel a bit more normal in company. I participated in this which to be honest was fucking madness as far more people used to congratulate me when they knew "I don't drink" than gave a toss that I drank an AF beer. One think led to another and then at a family wedding a cold bottle of Peroni gave me a Courtney Cox 'esk come on and the rest is history.

How fucking disappointing is that! My current GP have refused to reissue my prescription being more concerned with her pension than the welfare of her patient who has PROVED the efficiency with his previous GP - Cunt! I worry that by buying online again I may get caught running out due to supply problems, and have to drop from 150mg to zero overnight.

Anyway, that's enough of my forum cleansing back to you.

Why is everything so overwhelming when I’m drinking?

Ha ha, I know this a rhetorical question but what I do know is I FEEL the anxiety inside me, the anxiety that Baclofen dealt with pissed or sober.

Especially since I’m lying, lying, lying about being sober.
but honestly, I don’t know which would be worse for them. Telling the truth would crush them. Telling them that I’ve lied would make them angry, but they’d have me to blame, so that, at least, would make them feel better.

Now that is a powerful conundrum. I am a couple of years older than you and in the same position. In my favour is that I have gone back to my pre alcohol free period size, so I guess they know but its not something that is discussed, which makes me feel slightly less disappointed in myself.

That said, I couldn’t sit in our hot tub for 10 minutes tonight without my mind freaking out, and I have a hot tub! So thank you all that matters. A house AND a hot tub is a helluva lot to be thankful for.

I had a lay-z-spa out door jobbie, got fed up with repairing punctures caused by our cats claws. Unfortunately the Pianna decided to keep the cats in the one or other ultimatum!

I will post a more constructive reply tomorrow, when hopefully I have my new glasses and do not have to type with streaming eyes.

Finally for the time being, @Stevo , I am desperately sorry to hear of your current situation and that every way you turn you get a slap in the face for your troubles. Keep your chin up mate.

Regards,


Bacman

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Hi Ne, I've checked in a few times, but between the lack of activity, the notifications not working when there is, and having an intentionally busy, sober life, I just haven't bothered to post or respond. As they say in "the rooms," I'll "Keep coming back."

The irony is that the only reason that people have hope is that others keep coming back. Nice to see you here.

I don't regret all (exactly) the Thanksgivings that I missed between the last timeI posted, whenever that was, and this one. But I regret missing posting yesterday, which was the US Thanksgiving. I thought about this place all day. I also got slammed with doing things that didn't allow me to post here. And it mattered to me.

I'm not, I hope you all know, into holiday celebrations that leave people out. And I'm aware of the complicated history of this one. But if there's one thing that I can embrace that includes all of us it's giving thanks for family and friends, which i I found on here.

It's 8pm my time, had a long day and am at home again, and thankful for that. Thought I was ready to go to bed and sleep and that's not happening. In large part because we all play a part here, and giving thanks, because it's a holiday an reminds me to do it, means giving thanks here.

So thank you to all the people who have kept this place going. With their time and their money and their words.

xo, and much, and muchas love, Ne

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Bear with me babe. Not in that way, except Bristish boys and girls call each other babe. And also I love you in the most platonic, never met you, don't know you except when we're all emotionally naked, kind of way.. And I can't accurattely quote you so I'll quote you to say that tomorrow is a better day for me to respond. It's bloody late here. It's been a couple of long days of thanksgiving. ha. But one the best of which is to find you here, again. Alhtough, sorry for the circumstances. xo
I'm not even correcting my grammar. I can barely see past the turkey coma.

Hello, I thought of you today. No, not in that way but cos of the shooting in your state I heard about on my wireless this morning. World is a bonkers place babe, I hope you and yours are all safe.



Not for long, well like you I became content, actually complacent that I had kicked the booze for good after 2 and a half years AF so a combination of arrogance and house move (to another GP) I came off of Baclofen from 160mg daily which is probably one of the worst decisions I have ever made. I was ok for a few months, although (and this is no excuse) my wife kept buying me Becks Blue, alcohol free which she thought might make me feel a bit more normal in company. I participated in this which to be honest was fucking madness as far more people used to congratulate me when they knew "I don't drink" than gave a toss that I drank an AF beer. One think led to another and then at a family wedding a cold bottle of Peroni gave me a Courtney Cox 'esk come on and the rest is history.

How fucking disappointing is that! My current GP have refused to reissue my prescription being more concerned with her pension than the welfare of her patient who has PROVED the efficiency with his previous GP - Cunt! I worry that by buying online again I may get caught running out due to supply problems, and have to drop from 150mg to zero overnight.

Anyway, that's enough of my forum cleansing back to you.



Ha ha, I know this a rhetorical question but what I do know is I FEEL the anxiety inside me, the anxiety that Baclofen dealt with pissed or sober.



Now that is a powerful conundrum. I am a couple of years older than you and in the same position. In my favour is that I have gone back to my pre alcohol free period size, so I guess they know but its not something that is discussed, which makes me feel slightly less disappointed in myself.



I had a lay-z-spa out door jobbie, got fed up with repairing punctures caused by our cats claws. Unfortunately the Pianna decided to keep the cats in the one or other ultimatum!

I will post a more constructive reply tomorrow, when hopefully I have my new glasses and do not have to type with streaming eyes.

Finally for the time being, @Stevo , I am desperately sorry to hear of your current situation and that every way you turn you get a slap in the face for your troubles. Keep your chin up mate.

Regards,


Bacman