I decided to create my own Baclofen experiment thread.
Today, Day 1.
10am - first 5mg dose. At about 15-20 minutes, felt this kick in. Fairly strong muscle relaxant effect. At about the 3 hour point, tired sleepy set in. Not too overwhelming, managed to stay awake and work. I felt on and off, my anxiety get both a little better and a little worse. Probably just normal. Nothing much to note.
2pm - 2nd 5mg dose. I want to drink a giant keg of beer the size of an aircraft carrier. Cravings hitting a little early here. Probably nothing, but I do feel a little tense. At one hour past this, I defintely feel agitated and tense. Is this common early on? Well, it's almost beer o-clock. Grabbed a beer. At the 2.5 hour point, tired sleepies have hit again. On 2nd beer, ooops, time for another, anxiety down a little of course.
I cannot find the Baclofen guide that was here. There's a link, but it doesn't work. Found one on the Baclife site. Reading up on titration, seems simple enough. I started at 3x5mg daily, at 10am, 2pm, and 6pm. That's a slight variation on their dosage timing of 7am 12am and 5pm. For one, I don't get up at 7am. No chickens to feed. Until there are chikens to feed, I get up at 9am. I went 4 hours instead of 5, because I wanted to get in dosages before peak cravings hit. Not sure if 4 vs 5 hours apart is a mistake. Thoughts anyone?
The only 2 side effects I've seen are dry mouth about half hour after a dose, and sleepies about 3 hours after.
I skipped my 250mg Phenibut, because I don't know if it's a safe or advisable combo or might cause a negative reaction on the efficacy of the Bac either on cravings or anxiety, or both. If anyone can advise, please do. Also, one thing I do know, do not take Phenibut after drinking, always before and wait a few hours.
Oh, another note on the Phenibut / Baclofen compare. With Phenibut, I either feel nothing at all, or mild to strong euphoria. After these 2 small doses of Bac, I feel a muscle relaxer type of effect, zero euphoria. So at this dose, I can't imagine Baclofen being abused for it's effect. Maybe at higher doses there is anxiloytic effects, but at this dose, none at all. I either feel zero anti-anxiety effect or slightly more anxiety.
6pm - 3rd 5mg dose. After 1 hour, I feel sedated. It's not euphoric or anything, just sedated. I can tell that any stopping effect to my daily dose of alchohol is over and now I'm heading for passout land once again. Well, I didn't expect anything to happen for a while. Don't really have any side effects going on. I'm just sort of like sedated indifferent to most everything. I don't want to do anything, but I'm no longer feeling any anxiety, which is nice. I'm quite relaxed. Reading lots of chemical pharmocological stuff about Baclofen on the internet, pretty much none of which I really understand. Interesting thought that Phenibut and Baclofen are almost exactly the same chemical except for the addition of some chlorine thing on one of the molecules in Baclofen which gives it such a different effect. I can tell you already, the effect of these two substances is absolutely nothing alike in any way for me. Thankfully, zero nausea for me so far with Baclofen. That would be the one thing that would make it hard for me to continue, I can fight past the drowsiness. On my fifth beer now, feel no bad effect at all, just relaxed in a sedated type way and probably less buzz than usual from the alcohol, but nice and relaxed, which is sort of nice and no anxiety. Sleepies coming on again...
Today, Day 1.
10am - first 5mg dose. At about 15-20 minutes, felt this kick in. Fairly strong muscle relaxant effect. At about the 3 hour point, tired sleepy set in. Not too overwhelming, managed to stay awake and work. I felt on and off, my anxiety get both a little better and a little worse. Probably just normal. Nothing much to note.
2pm - 2nd 5mg dose. I want to drink a giant keg of beer the size of an aircraft carrier. Cravings hitting a little early here. Probably nothing, but I do feel a little tense. At one hour past this, I defintely feel agitated and tense. Is this common early on? Well, it's almost beer o-clock. Grabbed a beer. At the 2.5 hour point, tired sleepies have hit again. On 2nd beer, ooops, time for another, anxiety down a little of course.
I cannot find the Baclofen guide that was here. There's a link, but it doesn't work. Found one on the Baclife site. Reading up on titration, seems simple enough. I started at 3x5mg daily, at 10am, 2pm, and 6pm. That's a slight variation on their dosage timing of 7am 12am and 5pm. For one, I don't get up at 7am. No chickens to feed. Until there are chikens to feed, I get up at 9am. I went 4 hours instead of 5, because I wanted to get in dosages before peak cravings hit. Not sure if 4 vs 5 hours apart is a mistake. Thoughts anyone?
The only 2 side effects I've seen are dry mouth about half hour after a dose, and sleepies about 3 hours after.
I skipped my 250mg Phenibut, because I don't know if it's a safe or advisable combo or might cause a negative reaction on the efficacy of the Bac either on cravings or anxiety, or both. If anyone can advise, please do. Also, one thing I do know, do not take Phenibut after drinking, always before and wait a few hours.
Oh, another note on the Phenibut / Baclofen compare. With Phenibut, I either feel nothing at all, or mild to strong euphoria. After these 2 small doses of Bac, I feel a muscle relaxer type of effect, zero euphoria. So at this dose, I can't imagine Baclofen being abused for it's effect. Maybe at higher doses there is anxiloytic effects, but at this dose, none at all. I either feel zero anti-anxiety effect or slightly more anxiety.
6pm - 3rd 5mg dose. After 1 hour, I feel sedated. It's not euphoric or anything, just sedated. I can tell that any stopping effect to my daily dose of alchohol is over and now I'm heading for passout land once again. Well, I didn't expect anything to happen for a while. Don't really have any side effects going on. I'm just sort of like sedated indifferent to most everything. I don't want to do anything, but I'm no longer feeling any anxiety, which is nice. I'm quite relaxed. Reading lots of chemical pharmocological stuff about Baclofen on the internet, pretty much none of which I really understand. Interesting thought that Phenibut and Baclofen are almost exactly the same chemical except for the addition of some chlorine thing on one of the molecules in Baclofen which gives it such a different effect. I can tell you already, the effect of these two substances is absolutely nothing alike in any way for me. Thankfully, zero nausea for me so far with Baclofen. That would be the one thing that would make it hard for me to continue, I can fight past the drowsiness. On my fifth beer now, feel no bad effect at all, just relaxed in a sedated type way and probably less buzz than usual from the alcohol, but nice and relaxed, which is sort of nice and no anxiety. Sleepies coming on again...
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