Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

mollyka;1546719 wrote: Poor aul Jacks ain't well alright - just read the end of last nights as well --- sending mammy hugs and kisses and STAY IN THE BED!!! Woman-flu IS a very serious issue - not to be confused with......... eeerrmmm ------ anything else Seriously - hope you got a good nights sleep and feel a bit more human this morning!
The day/night out sounds like a bit of a 'perfect storm' alright Arsey --- 3 choices ---- 1# determine 100 percent that no matter what - alcohol will not play a part and stick like glue with that --- you have a decent spell of sobriety so that determination should be enough to get you through -- and hopefully get you through happily enough -- maybe have an exit strategy in place if required 2# Don't go 3# Drink
We all still have that choice --- choice always sounds like a 'positive' word -- but we can make all sorts of choices and that's there for you IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT ---- but you've said many times here you MAY try 'moderation' sometime in the future --- would that be a good time to experiment....... ??????

I think it's option 1. And i have the marathon as an excuse. I dont think i want to drink just yet. Not yet. And if i drank there... well, i dunno... there's kind of a pride thing inasmuch as saying i can do these events without the need to recourse to the drink. And I don't want certain peeps at work going, "ah.... see how he drank on his last day here?!... that says summat that does!"

And if ever i did drink, i dont want it to be a reason to get bladdered and/or run away, but to share a time with peeps. This is what needs work if ever i did drink again. My attitude to it - the why's and wherefores of why i want to have a drink/s.

Orf to work to imagine Zen's mime:H

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

GET WELL SOON Jacs! :l :l

Stay in bed and let Sir Pee be yer nurse.

[Recluse]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

Morning

Hope you're feeling better today Jackie :l Was wondering where you'd got to last night.

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

She rises from her sick bed. Gawd I need a shower, I honk.



Off to have a read back.

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

Had me read back so good morning Tipperooo (glad yer getting yer bounce back), Zennifer, D'Arsey, Sweetypea, Mollymoo, Reccybear

RunningCourage;1546727 wrote: I think it's option 1. And i have the marathon as an excuse. I dont think i want to drink just yet. Not yet. And if i drank there... well, i dunno... there's kind of a pride thing inasmuch as saying i can do these events without the need to recourse to the drink. And I don't want certain peeps at work going, "ah.... see how he drank on his last day here?!... that says summat that does!"

And if ever i did drink, i dont want it to be a reason to get bladdered and/or run away, but to share a time with peeps. This is what needs work if ever i did drink again. My attitude to it - the why's and wherefores of why i want to have a drink/s.

Now correct me if I'm totally wrong but are you really thinking about when rather than if. I find it slightly worrisome that even now you think that some alcohol in a social situation is going to make everything easier/better.

I know the wheres and whys, I've been counselled to death about it but still chose to drink. Mebbess the first few times keeping to what would be called a social norm but by god it bites you on the bum quicker than you can say bite on the bum.

Like everything it takes practice to not drink socially. Like learning to drive, you don't do a hill start on the first lesson. I can honestly say people having drinks now just don't bother me, but once they've taken that turn into drunk I find a safe have and tend to gravitate to the drivers and other non-drinkers.

RunningCourage;1546728 wrote: GET WELL SOON Jacs! :l :l

Stay in bed and let Sir Pee be yer nurse.

Thanks me darling and the rest of yous.

Poor Sir Pee was on call last night and bless him didn't get in 'til 1.30am. Must have been a right bun fight in their neck of the woods that all 3 of the senior lawyers were called out.

[InChains]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

re the not drinking socially i find myself in a similarly awkward position with leaving next week, plan is to do as I did with in-laws last night n casually slip in that my dermatology nurse has sworn me off drink for the time being. I'm on day 5 now, so excited to have gotten that far n dare I say it it is actually a little easier now than it was. big tests still to come with uni start, freshers week, wife's birthday n leaving job in the next 4 weeks, will be keeping close methinks...

and morning to everybody! hope you feel better soon JC

[Recluse]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

RunningCourage;1546727 wrote: And if ever i did drink, i dont want it to be a reason to get bladdered and/or run away, but to share a time with peeps. This is what needs work if ever i did drink again. My attitude to it - the why's and wherefores of why i want to have a drink/s.
It might be helpful to look at the idea of drinking again in terms of risk versus reward, arsey. What would you stand to gain from a couple of drinks on a night out? A little added enjoyment spread over a couple of hours, maybe? And the risks? Well...those two drinks could easily turn out to be the first step on the road to a full-blown relapse. Every journey begins with a single step. What would you say to another person in your position who was having similar thoughts?

JackieClaire;1546735 wrote: She rises from her sick bed. Gawd I need a shower, I honk.



Off to have a read back.

That pic is quite a good likeness actually Jackie!! How're you feeling now?

[Recluse]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

Jackie...you were asking about my niece a few days back. I had an e-mail from my mum this morning and she mentioned niece got 3 As, which she was a bit disappointed with. Apparently she needed at least 1, preferably 2 A*s to squeeze into medical school somewhere this year. Last weekend she attended a 2 day course in London to help with her clinical aptitude test which she'll be retaking in 3 weeks. Anyway, the long and the short of it is she'll be taking a gap year with relevant work to hopefully enable her get a place at medical school next year. Oh...and her brother got his GCSE results today too - 7 As and 6 A*s which he's happy with. :goodjob:

[sweetpea29]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

Hi Reccie and anyone else about :hiya:

Inchy- very proud of you making it to day 5 :goodjob:

Mr D'Arsey- think it's good that you can come here and tell us about yer dream and explore yer thoughts/feelings RE. the drinking. Feck me, yer memory of the dream was quite detailed! Think ye have as much as told yerself ye wont drink next Friday for whatever reasons, correct me if am wrong? Tis good that ye are being open and honest bout yer thoughts not just with us but moreso with yerself methinks.
I still have a romantic notion in my head that would just love to be able to 'enjoy' a few glasses of the red stuff like all those 'normal' folk! However, when I think it through honestly, those few glasses would never be enough to satisfy me :no: Shall stick to the coffee or mi wadi me!!

Jeez Reccie ye have 2 intelligent beings for a niece and nephew Bet your v proud of their achievements? Pity your niece didn't get into med school this year but hope she will be successful next year xx

Jacks- how are you feeling now? Hope ye are taking it easy xx

Got me half day at work thankfully Still have another 2 long-days ahead so plan is to chill out rest of today and try get to the leaba early tonight!

[Zenstyle]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

Just a quick fly-by as I'm oot and aboot from 11.30 on and not sure when I'll get back.

I hope you're feeling better Jacks... :l

If I don't see yiz later I'll catch yiz on the morrow! X

[Recluse]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

sweetpea29;1546806 wrote: Hi Reccie and anyone else about :hiya:

Jeez Reccie ye have 2 intelligent beings for a niece and nephew Bet your v proud of their achievements? Pity your niece didn't get into med school this year but hope she will be successful next year xx

Got me half day at work thankfully Still have another 2 long-days ahead so plan is to chill out rest of today and try get to the leaba early tonight!

Hiya peapie :hallo:

to be honest, I don't know my niece and nephew very well - I see them maybe once a year, if that - but their (now separated) parents seem to have done a very decent job of bringing them up and encouraging them to do well at school. My niece in particular is a lovely girl.

Glad you got your half-day off work. Stick yer feet up and take a well-earned rest!

Hi and bye zennifer

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

JackieClaire;1546738 wrote:
Now correct me if I'm totally wrong but are you really thinking about when rather than if. I find it slightly worrisome that even now you think that some alcohol in a social situation is going to make everything easier/better.

Yes, perhaps it is when over if. To be honest I don't actually know. The longer I am AF, the longer i wonder whether i want to drink. I have created a new habit. It has it's ups and downs, but it sure as to hell aint doing anything negtaive to my physical well-being.

I don't, nor intended to imply, that AL in a social situation would make things easier/better. I do though see AL as having positive attributes in certain situations. It's never a need tho. Joy, happiness, merriment can all be had as much and more so without AL.

However I do remain somewhat conflicted and I'm sorry that at nearly 9 months this is still the case and wont fly the Affers flag as being the new nirvana and way of enlightenment. I am looking at this very personally. I fully understand the damage and very potential danger i was causing myself with the daily bottle of wine, and I am still living with the daily "what happens if". And i don't think the "what happens if" is necessarily only what alkies say, but can be a question asked be any who has changed a circumstance and wonder what happens if they embrace an aspect of their previous life.

Recluse;1546795 wrote: It might be helpful to look at the idea of drinking again in terms of risk versus reward, arsey. What would you stand to gain from a couple of drinks on a night out? A little added enjoyment spread over a couple of hours, maybe? And the risks? Well...those two drinks could easily turn out to be the first step on the road to a full-blown relapse. Every journey begins with a single step. What would you say to another person in your position who was having similar thoughts?

To be really honest? I would say only they would know. And maybe it takes the trying to know. Maybe that is the next phase of the journey. And if they decided not to, I would totally and unreservedly embrace and respect that decision. I wouldn't say it was a bad idea, nor necessarily a good idea also.

By the way, as in my reply to Molls, i have no intention of drinking on Friday next week because I don't want to. Just so youse know.

As for risk vs reward, I do that daily. Honestly, the daily tease of what if. And it is also in part the reason why i wont drink next Friday. I wont risk drinking with the fact that i have a marathon on Sunday.
sweetpea29;1546806 wrote:

Mr D'Arsey- think it's good that you can come here and tell us about yer dream and explore yer thoughts/feelings RE. the drinking. Feck me, yer memory of the dream was quite detailed! Think ye have as much as told yerself ye wont drink next Friday for whatever reasons, correct me if am wrong? Tis good that ye are being open and honest bout yer thoughts not just with us but moreso with yerself methinks.
I still have a romantic notion in my head that would just love to be able to 'enjoy' a few glasses of the red stuff like all those 'normal' folk! However, when I think it through honestly, those few glasses would never be enough to satisfy me :no: Shall stick to the coffee or mi wadi me!!

Yup. Yer right.

Thank you, yes it might be romantic thoughts here too. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know!!! And maybe's I am not normal folk. And perhaps I would abuse the drug to drink at people, life instead of any other less harmful way.

Sorry folks, that was all about me there, but... sometimes i feel a bit like it's only either/or with AL - and i have little doubt that it is for some. But i don't think like that, or feel that. And i'm just being honest.

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

Evening all,
Haven't got 6 words tonight.

D'Arsey. You're the main topic of the day. How is it for you.

Couldn't agree more with Molls. The Mammy in me is screaming too.

[tiptronic_ct]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

:hallo: Good evening

The one mammy is just slightly hoarse because of the womanflu, D'Arsey

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Thursday 22nd August

Sorry doing the in and out MWO hokey cokey here. Finally got a plumber locked in the bathroom mending the cistern.

It depends on what any of us would call normal.

I'm going to stick my neck out here and ask if perhaps you're thinking I'm not as bad as .....................insert name.