Addicted to vitamins and supplements

[Unwasted]

Addicted to vitamins and supplements

Vitamins - Risks

Just found this article about the RISK with vitamins:

BBC News - Vitamins linked with higher death risk in older women

[Supercrew]

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Unwasted;1191314 wrote: Just found this article about the RISK with vitamins:

BBC News - Vitamins linked with higher death risk in older women

I saw that article also and was going to post it in this thread.

As far as your questions regarding "doctor yourself", I don't know because I don't follow that regimen. I read the article last night, and it isn't really informational as much as it's a sales pitch in my opinion. I personally take a multi, a super B complex, and B-1 and B-6, but I have never taken L-glut. When I started I started taking HTP-5 and St John's Wort, and I am not really sure if they do much of anything, but I do take them daily because I read they would stablize my mood, and help with cravings. So I continue to take them.

I took Niacin about 7 years ago as a workout supplement, and it was not and enjoyable experience. My head and body heated up with a feeling of prickly heat. Not a comfortable feeling..I thought my head was going to explode. I do think there is a small amount of Niacin in my B complex though.

[SebastianMacGregor]

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Supercrew;1191184 wrote: I wasn't looking for a fight, just trying to find where you got your research regarding the 96% and was curious about how you quit drinking.

As far as one of the founders of AA agreeing with the concept of supplementation, please remember that his program is 75 years old and they don't have anything in the AA program promoting the use of supplements...it's a spiritual program.
As far as you comparing alcoholism and hypoglycemia, hypoglycemia is a physical ailment caused by low blood sugar, (glucose). Alcoholism is a physical and mental addiction to alcohol which can cause diabetes and hypoglycemia as well as a host of other things. Your body does not need alcohol, unless you drink enough to become physically dependent on it, once you detox which takes anywhere from 3 days to a week from your last drink your body no longer needs it, whereas your body needs glucose to survive and function so I don't understand your coorelation. As far as your link for a vitamin cure for Alcoholism, Dr. Hoffer has tried to use Niacin as a cure for just about everything, and he also treated Bill W's alcoholism with LSD aside from niacin. I'm not saying it doesn't work but there has been little proof to show either niacin or LSD for that matter as a cure for alcoholism.

Please tell us your experience of why you consider alcoholism and hypoglycemia similar. Do you feel your alcohol addiction was/is 96% physical for you?

The coorelation with any drug = neurotransmitters and receptor sites.

There are many sources of information. Hoffer is just one. And he is not the end all. There will never be a "cure". The body/mind is much to complex for that. And he is all about educating yourself. It is not a sales pitch.

There are many assumptions you make in your post, things I did not claim or imply, but to point out every detail would be exhausting and pointless. This is my exit

[Supercrew]

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SebastianMacGregor;1191357 wrote: The coorelation with any drug = neurotransmitters and receptor sites.

There are many sources of information. Hoffer is just one. And he is not the end all. There will never be a "cure". The body/mind is much to complex for that. And he is all about educating yourself. It is not a sales pitch.

There are many assumptions you make in your post, things I did not claim or imply, but to point out every detail would be exhausting and pointless. This is my exit

You don't have to leave the thread SM, but I am curious about your method of abstaining from drinking. How have supplements played a role in helping YOU quit drinking?

Forums like these are great places for people to get support and information, but most people who are alcoholics or have drinking problems or who are in early recovery are desperate for answers, and to hear other people experiences is great, so please tell us your experience Sebastian.

[Boh]

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Unwasted

The multi is in addition to the other vitimins.. L glute can't hurt if your exercising.


It is not a sales pitch.... I didn't buy a thing except vitimins from my local store!

I swear by the article and that is how I managed to stay AF for 13 days!

This is what worked for ME!

PS there is a flush free naicin!

Boh

[Boh]

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Unwasted

The multi is in addition to the other vitimins.. L glute can't hurt if your exercising.


SC that's not nice calling it a sales pitch.... I didn't buy a thing except vitimins from my local store! It was a good story and a different perspective...if you read it is actually against the big pharmaceutical companies and health care that do make money off treating AL problems rather then prevention.

I swear by the article and that is how I managed to stay AF for 13 days!

This is what worked for ME!

PS there is a flush free naicin!

Boh

[Boh]

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Awesome I will get that book today!

Much appreciated Zen!

:thanks:



Boh

[Supercrew]

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Boh;1191526 wrote: Unwasted

The multi is in addition to the other vitimins.. L glute can't hurt if your exercising.


SC that's not nice calling it a sales pitch.... I didn't buy a thing except vitimins from my local store! It was a good story and a different perspective...if you read it is actually against the big pharmaceutical companies and health care that do make money off treating AL problems rather then prevention.

I swear by the article and that is how I managed to stay AF for 13 days!

This is what worked for ME!

PS there is a flush free naicin!

Boh

I wasn't refering to you Boh, regarding a sales pitch. I understand your question regarding supplements, and I had similar questions when I started my recovery. Congrats on your 13 days that's awesome!
Thank you for the info on the flush free niacin, I will look into it.

I was directing my post to Sebastian, and I thought he was initially the one who provided the link to the website. I apologize, in the forum I formerly used ther was a strict policy of not putting out medical info regarding specific supplements and especially from websites selling cures...even though that is sort of what MWO is. So I apologize again, I just know that when I was in early recovery mode I would buy anything that promised an easier alternative to breaking my addiction, and I spent alot of money on products and systems to help me moderate my drinking before that ...only to end up drunk. Obviously that is just my experience, but I was always told if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. For me breaking my addiction was free, but it took daily action, and alot of work on my part. But in hindsite it was enjoyable knowing that I was making a positive change that was adding years to my life if not saving it out right.

Sorry again for the misunderstanding.

[spacebebe01]

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I also take quite a lot of suppliments, the way I do it is to commit to taking each one until the box is empty,(not scientific I know) then I decide whether to buy more of that particular one or not, in this way I have cut down a bit from the mass amounts I was taking at first. I was drinking a lot of alcohol for a very long time and I did eat it would mostley be crap, by body is in need of tlc and giving it these nutrients is one way of doing that. I am sober ,(around 3 months I think dont count days) and mostley pretty happy and whatever way I have go about ensuring it stays that way is great for both myself and my kids and my 82 yr old mum.

[nancy]

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the supplement question

I remember being intrigued when I joined this website and reading about all the supplements in the My Way Out book. I am not sure if there is evidence for the supplements. I also read Seven Steps to Sobriety but wasn't convinced. I do know that it felt good to get them and to doctor yourself. It feels like self-caring. It is self-caring. And if you add exercise to that. Well that's amazing! So if you are taking these "medicines" every day, I bet that adds to this feeling that you want to be healthy. I think Roberta Jewell meant for them to be used with anti-craving medication.

It sounds to me, regardless of what the supplements are physically doing, that you are going through the very positive process of recovery. I am not a doctor but I doubt that you can get addicted to them. You are so early in your recovery. Sounds like you should keep taking them and going to the gym, get through this big hump period. You are on your way! Congrats!

[Boh]

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AF 96 Days

Hey All!

just a quick up date...

I have been hitting the vitamines every day since I started this thread a few months ago, and the results have been FANTASTIC!

Today is AF day 96.

This is the first time in ten+ years that I have ever managed to be AF for more than a few days.

I really enjoy my new life! Life is so much easier now. I never thought I could do this and I attribute my AF life to vitamines and daily exercise! And of course all the great people here!

Thanks!



boh

[Supercrew]

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Great job Boh!! Keep up the great work!

If you don't mind me asking, what is different now as opposed to the other times where you would only stay away from alcohol for a few days? Exercise was key for me as well.

[Boh]

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Supercrew;1238345 wrote: Great job Boh!! Keep up the great work!

If you don't mind me asking, what is different now as opposed to the other times where you would only stay away from alcohol for a few days? Exercise was key for me as well.

lol... your funny!

[Supercrew]

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Boh;1238347 wrote: lol... your funny!

No, I'm serious. What changed? What helped you finally jump in and start taking action? I'm not asking for myself, just thought it would be interesting to hear how you finally decided that this was the time.

I planned on quitting for years, but could never really accomplish it...until I finally did. For me to do it I had to take daily action. Just curious about what brought you to finally have success?

[Boh]

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I have tried to quit for years with no more than a few AF days, and just accepted the fact that I was an alcoholic! I lived with it and made it work... I had a great job, house, and family... but I could never quit drinking, until I stumbled on the use of vitamines to treat alcoholism.

I started here,

DoctorYourself.com - Alcoholism

and then read the book - Seven Weeks to Sobriety

and then learned as much as I possibly could about vitamines and supplements.

I started taking my mountain of vitamines, as stated on the first page of this thread, and have never looked back.... it is amazing! I take my vitamines religiously and lift weights everyday.

I attribute my recovery entirely to mass amounts of vitamines and exercising, simple as that.

boh