Indifference.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Indifference.

Is it the middle of the night where you are? Or are you having that blissful early morning quiet/mwo time? I'm off to bed, myself, looking forward to that early morning.
And ditto what the others said.
You rock.
g'night!

[bleep]

Indifference.

It's something to 5 in the morning. I love what baclofen has done to my need for sleep, been up since 4 and won't go back to sleep today. Got to bed at midnight.

About to leave for the airport, I love flying, but hate airports and all they involve. Taking off your shoes? If someone wants to put a bomb in his shoes, let them, I think. Plus, everyone knows they make you take your shoes off, so he's just going to put it somewhere else.

Thanks Ne!

[TracyA]

Indifference.

bleep;1074817 wrote: About to leave for the airport, I love flying, but hate airports and all they involve. Taking off your shoes? If someone wants to put a bomb in his shoes, let them, I think. Plus, everyone knows they make you take your shoes off, so he's just going to put it somewhere else.

It is foolish. I think everyone should just have to strip naked to fly and no carry-on luggage allowed. The lines in the airport would reduce dramatically, and the flight would be far more interesting.

[bleep]

Indifference.

That's where I think we are heading Tracy. I've been saying it for a while. You're right, flying would be a lot more interesting! We could let people wear shoes only, just to make it more interesting.

[RedThread12]

Indifference.

Every time I go through airport security I think of the shoe-bomber sitting in some federal penitentiary laughing his ass off thinking, "that was worth it!" He gets my vote for "individual who created the most change in the world." :H and:upset:

[bleep]

Indifference.

Well. Low, it seems you gut instinct is alive and kicking.

It really pains me to post this. Last night, I don't remember coming home, for the first time in a long time. While I don't think I did anything close to what bleep69 would do, I don't actually know for sure, which is distressing me no end.

I started the night with the intention of getting pissed, a stupid thing to do, and succeed beyond belief.. Why I did that, I do not know. My head is pounding right now, why doesn't baclofen remove headaches? It does everything else.

I still believe in baclofen. It's myself I have no faith in. So tonight, I am going to try the "punch" theory, and will report back. I am desperately trying to remember what I did last night, but know from past experience that the memory is gone forever. I don't think it was anything bad. I hope.

I don't have the energy to respond to other's posts.

Sigh.

[Murphyx]

Indifference.

One night of silliness doesn't suddenly mean the way you're using baclofen doesn't work. The baclofen 'punch' thing may or may not work for some people, but how much evidence of its actual efficacy do we have? What you do know is that your system has worked bloody well for you for the last 6 weeks. Carry on with it and in no time you'll be back to the happy content Ryan, coming home from work, sipping the odd glass of wine and enjoying the normal life with his beautiful family.

If you do decide to go the 'punch' route you know you can't just suddenly change the regimen. You can't go from 240mg (?) evenly spaced throughout the day to a big one off hit. That would be extremely dangerous, especially for someone who reports being a dribbling wreck on even a single dose of 50mg.

You're not in a place to make a decision about changing at this time. Stop beating yourself up, sometimes we make silly decisions, that's what humans do, whether ex-alcies or not. Dude, relax, shit happens, it's in the past.

[bleep]

Indifference.

Thanks Murph. You're right, as usual. I'm probably overreacting. I'll let it sit in my head for the day and see what happens tonight. I'm keen to try it, just to see what it feels like, although I probably shouldn't say that!

[coalfire]

Indifference.

Hang in there Bleep. One bad night does not wreck all the progress you have made in 2011. What was it only 5 or 6 hours? You will work it out. Compare yourself to a patient in a hospital who has had a minor setback. They are two a penny in almost every medical condition under the sun. I dont know whether you spend much time in other sections of MWO but there is some great advice for coping with nights such as these. We have all had them.Just be good to yourself today and dont worry about much else until tomorrow.

[TracyA]

Indifference.

Bleep - :l

Like everyone else said, it was just one night and you've survived them before. Sorry to hear that your feelin' poorly. Bac can assist in creating one mother of hangover. But you know it is working for you, so I hope you can keep that as the foremost thought in your pounding head.

I definitely commiserate (as we all can) with the horror of the morning after and not remembering what you did. But, I'm pretty sure that you didn't off anybody!

:dontworry:

[Charlieboy]

Indifference.

Hey!

Even my most normal sensible buddies(yes, i have one...maybe two... have the odd night where they totally lose the plotto....welcome to the land of being 'normal'! As Murph said, shit happens to the best of 'em. Don't I know how hard it is to reason with youurself and see the light when you feel like crap but remember its just the toxicity playing mind games and you can relax in the knowledge that you are doing f*ckin well and inspiring and helping alot of people on here(incl me of course)
Rock on dude
Cheers
C

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Indifference.

In retrospect, hell, even in the moment, I think we both knew we were on our way to a tear. I did. I was sort of excited at the prospect of being able to get drunk again. It's been so long. Were you?

Anyway, I feel like shit. I'm really sorry that you do, too. But it brings me comfort that there is another human being on the other side of the world to commiserate with who cares about me. Thanks. but ugh. sorry. really.

I too was reevalutaing EVERY last thing this morning. But what Murphy said is right. glad you agree.
It's worked so far, and for a good while. Let's stay the course and slay the beast once and for all, shall we? We're simply not there yet. No biggie. Time. Patience. bac with forethought and planning.
These things will heal the wounds.
:h my friend.

[Murphyx]

Indifference.

Can I just point out that 'normal' people occasionally get pissed. They even look forward to getting pissed. They drink silly amounts and can't remember what they did the night before. They feel like shit the next day and beat themselves up for over doing it.

Congratulations on being normal.

[redhead77]

Indifference.

I have to agree with what Charlie and Murph said. Almost all of my nonalcoholic friends get drunk a couple of times a year. They just don't do it every night, like we do (or did). I'm not trying to convey the message, to go out and try to get drunk, but it does happen. I wanted to ask you if you've done anything differently as of late. Did you drop your dose? Switch brands? Forget to take a dose? Forget to eat? Maybe there are other factors at play here.

[redhead77]

Indifference.

Oh, and Bleep, I ended up going out after chat the other night. Talk about crazy. I won't hijack this thread to talk about it, I'll go write in my own thread but I can relate. I have the excuse that I haven't reached indifferance. The shame of the experience is the same, though.