Bruun's Titting UP

[Bruunhilde]

Bruun's Titting UP

Thanks Friends!

I appreciate you all checking in, I've actually been inbibing way too much and am exhausted. I have been reducing the bac due to high blood pressure and now I'm at 20mg. :upset: I think the increased weight from bac fatigue, plus more drinking on bac, increased my BP. Possibly bac was related too, I know two others of us have had the BP-bac experience.

This is my new plan. To white knuckle down my AL intake so I can up my exercise and lower my blood pressure. Once I get to a safe place BP-wise, I will probably contact Dr. L for serious help. The BP thing scared me, since a stroke brought on by HBP would be worse than addiction if it caused brain damage. I know, AL has already done some of that for me, but I don't see any other way of going given the BP. Chime in if you have a more knowledgable recommendation.

Thanks my dear friends.

[bleep]

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Hey Bruun,

Great to have you back, even if it's for a gloomy reason. Your plan sounds good, how long do you think it will take to reduce you HBP?

[Grommet]

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Bruun,

I understand your concern with the BP. You have the Bac, it works, and it will get you to where you want to be. But you are wise to first find the healthy, safe path.

My BP has stabilized at 145/80 over the past couple of days. Higher than normal, but not the stroking out and having someone wipe my arse for the rest of my life without AL and Bac (near perfect plagiarism of one of your prior posts ). Iv'e been at 150 mg for over a week (down from 225 mg) and am growing more convinced Bac did not cause the HBP, but may have exacerbated it? (does that make sense?). Good news is the cravings have not returned even at the lower dose.

I'm staying at this level until my March 8 physical with EKG, blood work, etc. I am going to run the Bac by my primary and if she does not bite I'm calling Dr. L, just like you.

I do not think you should go completely off the Bac. Just get to an easy dose as it will help take the edge off. Something to consider.

Oh yeah, over a week ago I started using the 3 of the 5 Keys in the book you recommended "8 Weeks to Lower BP": 1) 1800 mg of L-Arginine Sustained Release (2 x 900 mg and the sustained release is key), 2) Mega Natural BP (1 x 300 mg.) This is grape seed extract but Mega Natural is the only brand that has shown clinical effectiveness); and 3) 2 heaping spoonfuls of pure, organic, dark cocoa in my coffee in the am and in milk in the pm (you have to add sweetener as it is TART).

Good luck and keep us posted!

[Bruunhilde]

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Hi Bleep, I think it could take weeks, since the weight increases my BP, every time. I've put on ten lbs on bac, and that's part of why I feel extra awful.

Grommet, let me how that goes, the BP supps. I think there was another book on Amazon that got more effectiveness ratings, if you google it you'll see it. Someone else here posted it, but the reviewers I read didn't detail out the tips like the 8 week guy poster did.

I agree bac exacerbates but doensn't necessarily cause HBP. Since so many people don't experience HBP at all with bac, and mine's always been so dicey, it makes sense that for me and for other HBP (Sunnyvalenting?) it can be an issue. If you were borderline before bac, maybe that's why yours went up.

Interesting about that brand of grapeseed extract. Good researching!

[Murphyx]

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Hi Bruun

I have nothing sensible to add regarding BP etc, but just wanted to say "hi" and hey don't ignore us just because you have some real friends staying. We're far more important.

[Bruunhilde]

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LOL Murph, I can sooooo talk with you my MWO world, about my biggest problems in life, moreso than my closets friends.

[Bruunhilde]

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Not closet friends, closest. Oops. Freudian?

[_serenity_]

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Bruun--I do think it would be a good idea to go with Dr. L. After all that c0ffee went through, I think it is the wisest idea to have a physician supervise your progress. Plus, he will be available for consultation if you ever have to be hospitalized. PLUS, prescription Bac is sooooo much cheaper than the online stuff!

Keep us posted! :h

[Bruunhilde]

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Thanks S, I was reasoning it out just that way. The cost of a consult would be = cost of ordering overseas but without worry of running out. Thx. {}

[Isolde]

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Hey Bruun, I was the other HBP chick (well, at least one of them!). I'm also the one that recommended that other book on Amazon. I think Grom said he checked them both out. Blood Pressure Miracle or something like that.

Refresh my memory - you had HBP prior to bac, right? Are you on any medication for it? If not, then I'd suggest you go to your GP just for your BP, even if you only take the med while you're getting to your switch.

I hope to get off of mine one day and control it naturally, but for now the bac keeps it raised. But even with that, the med I take (Exforge) keeps it steady at 100/70. And it's really nice right now not to have yet ANOTHER thing to worry about!

Keep us posted, and glad you're back! :l

[Bruunhilde]

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Thanks Is,

Is, you I have so much in common with, ISn't it cool? Name, HBP, and more. Nice to have someone to discuss HBP with and so glad Grommet has his Dr Connection and shares his progress. I have to check out the Miracle book, it had more positive star reviews than the Cure did.

I've had HBP since I was a thin, healthy, addicted to exercise vegetarian teen. I have been medicated since my early 20's. I'm on three meds just for hypertension and my BP got out of control on bac, despite them all.

I'm worse off now than before starting bac because I gained weight on bac and feel awful-er. New word. If I didn't have a pretty extreme BP problem before the bac, all probably would have been different.

Somehow I have to white knuckle it to get off the AL which will help reduce the BP so I can restart the bac. Even then, I don't know if I'll be able to get to my switch because the BP was affecting me at 80mg/day. How I'll go AF after 25 years of not being able to last more than 4 days? Willpower obviously hasn't worked in the past. Maybe I'll restart the Topa and get completely off the bac, although the 30mg I'm taking may start more anxiety up again if I stop it. Anyone do both Topa and Bac at the same time? I know it's contraindicated but so is everything else.

This miracle pill will take alot more than JTTDP for me which SUCKS ASS.

[taw]

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I am so sorry you have to go thru this! how frustrating!! Makes my puking look like a non issue! Maybe you could Dr. L now and get some advice...

[Isolde]

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Yes, we do have quite a lot in common. :l
Ugh, so sorry to hear the HBP back story! I was diagnosed with it at 28 and have been slim and pretty healthy my whole life.
I can understand your concern, w/already being on 3 meds! I really hope that some of the natural remedies from either of the books will be able to help you!

Just my humble opinion here - don't restart Topa. It was one of the worst drugs I ever took and it didn't even help with the drinking. Your choice though of course, I'm not sure how you fared on it before.

You are definitely in a pickle here. But if you have to white knuckle it, at least you have a damn good reason (motivation!!) to do so! Because you know that bac works! So if you can get bac (:H) on it, you can kick AL to the curb for good, which in turn of course will help with the BP.

You might want to check out food grade diatomaceous earth. It's supposed to help with BP. I got a big container of it but was never very good at taking it diligently and I can't remember if I was also on my meds at the same time anyway. Here's the site I got mine from: Diatomaceous Earth, Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth, Buy Diatomaceous Earth Flea Control. Diatomaceous Earth Organic Garden Pest Control. Human Use. Get rid of Bed Bugs>
They make it out to be a panacea for everything. I still take mine when I remember, in the morning along w/all of my other supps!! Maybe I'll give it another good shot, something tells me it's doing something good on my insides! :H

No matter what you end up doing, you know we'll all be right here supporting you! :l

[Bruunhilde]

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So glad to have you here, everyone, by the way. When I have nowhere to turn, I come here and you all support me and let me chime in on your posts and make me feel cared for. Love you all.

Taw, thanks so much. I wouldn't agree it makes your puking look like a non-issue, your puking actually concerns me alot. I thought bac was supposed to help you detox from AL which was one reason it helps people stop AL without physician supervision. Plus, the last few times I was HU and puked, I thought I was going to die. I'm really so sorry you're going through it.

Is, do you remember the name of the other HBP female who had to quit bac due to HPB? She posted about it once, within the last few weeks, but I have no idea where to find that. I wonder what she's doing instead....

[LadyLush]

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Bruun,

I am sorry you are sick :-( I am in the so-called "honeymoon period" and have been absent from many posts. I just want you to know I care even though I am new here. I will start my own thread but I wish I could send something that went to everyone like a group e-mail or something. I hate to have to read "blogs" which I am ignorant at to check on everyone. Why can't we have just have a generic baclofen "say something" that everyone goes too without going to a thread? I can't name all of you that have helped me but I will in my thread because you have no idea the new life you have given me. Please Bruun get better and I will stay with you.

Just so you know Murphy is my mothers maiden name so I think it is genetic...
Bruun, I saw you posted to someone that hasn't been on in 5 years and told them "I know it's been 5 years but here is my advice"....You go girl! You are awesome!

The honeymoon will end soon. I wish I could stay like this forever but alcohol still takes over my life. And all humor aside I know the bad is coming with the good. I will do anything to not be a "drunk" again.

I am here Bruun for anything. I think you are in the states so I will fly there if you need me and I swear by my word.

Lady