Bruun's Titting UP

[Rusty]

Bruun's Titting UP

Hi Everybody,

It's been a while since I've been here.

Is, my sister has IC right now.:upset: She's had it for more than a month. She's been living on eggs, toast and oatmeal. She has good HOURS and then it turns bad. She's trying to make an appt. with a specialist. I would be more specific except we have guys on this thread.

What's up with the coconut oil? I mean....um, well....I think I might embarrass myself here....isn't it used as a lubricant....soooo.....ok.... you mix it with something and drink it? Just answer the question, will ya?:H

I will try and find Bruun right now.

[Bruunhilde]

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Rusty, plse call me, can't type n9w - sorr7 s9 s9rrr7 sHht s9 s9rr7 damhnk h9t s7re wyat 8s ya00e8hgl]

Rusty call me

[Bruunhilde]

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Guys/Lovilies, I am okay, sorry, super busy< and busy with work and having a bac typing time to make it all a little super MORE/:l

[Rusty]

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Bruun,

I am really worried about you and just left you a message on your phone. I know it's the middle of the night where you are but I didn't get your message until about 4:30 a.m. today. Call me, please!!

[Doggygirl]

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Bruun - sending love your way. I hope you got some sleep and I hope you're OK!!

:h:l:h:l:h:l

I'm off to AA then school then errands. I will be thinking of you Brutus.

rudyb i can feel your inner light all the way in illinois.

Rusty you can do anything with coconut oil. Melt it on your vegetables or toast, sautee stuff in it, mix it in a smoothie, in tea, or do like me and just eat it off the spoon. It's also good on the outside of the skin as well as the inside.

DG

[redhead77]

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Isolde;1195188 wrote:

Yup, tomatoes are supposed to be one of the worst offenders for IC. I've seen some people say that they do ok with lemon juice, but not with any other kind of citrus. I haven't tested that yet. Although I did have a little bit of pasta with tomato sauce last night and don't seem to have suffered any ill effects! I don't want to test too many things right now. I figure the fewer inflammatory things I put into my body, the sooner it will realize that it doesn't have to keep fighting and will let it go, y'know? I don't know if that makes any sense.

Anyway, where the heck IS Bruun??

If you find yourself with the ability to tolerate lemon juice, Annies makes two vinegar free dressings. One is called Lemon and chive (my favorite) and the other is called Green Garlic. I'm sure you'll have your hands full with making and creating new recipes for your diet, so sometimes it's useful to have some premade things to choose from. Also, there's humus for dipping veggies or chips (if you can tolerate lemon juice), and Wholly makes a good salsa with lime juice rather than vinegar (if you can tolerate that and tomatoes). Just some thoughts. There's a book called Feast without the Yeast, that's loaded with recipes, some may work well for the diet you're on. Not all, but certainly some. Anything to make the burden less and to give you ideas!

I hope you're OK Bruun. It looks like DG is dead set on keeping the hotel in business whilst you're away. :l

Rusty, coconut oil is amazing. It's anti-fungal and anti-bacterial. Not to mention what it may do for insulin resistance and a whole host of other problems. It works awesome as a deep conditioning treatment for your hair too!

*EDIT: I'm sorry Rusty. I misspelled your name. I seem to suffer from spelling issues at the moment.

[Doggygirl]

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Hi Red! I guess you and me get all the hunky men today, eh?

I got an A in my 101 Intro to Counseling class. I was more excited for another guy in the class who got an A. He has really come down a difficult road beating heroin addiction. He started the class with absolutely no faith in his own abilities, no computer skills, etc. His family is working on his computer skills and a few of us in class are working on his self esteem. Today we started class 202. All my other classes are on a regular semster so just finished with mid terms. For some reason, these two classes are set up for 1/2 the semester each, with double the time/work - sort of like the pace of a summer session class. Feels weird to be starting one class while the rest of them are in full swing.

Well, more homework! I'm off to is. Hello to Brutus and all friends. So sorry me and Red have already taken all the hunky men.

DG

[RedThread12]

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Well, at the risk of jumping in inappropriately, (which I'm rather well-known for among my family, friends, and students :H), and because the parameters of "wild" in my life have dimensionalized so much that I have no time to read back, I'm going to make an assumption that IC stands for intersistial cystitis. If that's not the case, please disregard this entire post!

I'll make it relatively short, too. For those suffering from intestinal-related dis-ease, please look extensively into ayurveda. Ayurveda is the natural healing tradition of India, and the fundamental premise is that ALL disease arises from imbalances in the gut. So all treatment, from whatever direction is appropriate for each individual, aims to balance intestinal function.

I've gone the whole 9-yards, of course, and gone to India repeatedly to take "treatment." Treatment involves 2-3 hours/day of massage per day to apply herbalized oils in a variety of ways, and ingestion of herbs. Pretty blissful way of bringing balance, although inevitably there is some emotional or physical discomfort because that what the treatment is designed for - to bringing imbalance out of the physical/mental being.

The good news is that you don't have to go to India for good ayurvedic treatment, it's just far less known and you might have to travel a bit to find a good ayurvedic doctor. I happen to know the first Westerner to ever become a credentialed ayurvedic physician. He had to learn Sanskrit to enter the university, and the training is more demanding than becoming an M.D. in this country.

Ooops . . . this isn't short, after all. I have just picked up bits and pieces - I, too, have done the whole "live food," grow your own wheatgrass (to drink and use for enemas!) and ferment your own kombucha thing. All good, but hard to sustain, in my experience.

Ayurveda brings a whole different battery of herbs and dietary suggestions/support. If you need help, check out doctors or practitioners in your area. If I can help in any way, PM me. According to this centuries-old tradition, it is the well-being of the gut (science has finally given it - the enteric nervous system - it's significant place, along with the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems) that is the basis of health.

[Bruunhilde]

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Message to all, typed to Karen but her PM box is full:

Sorry, can't really talk, just so busy at work it's CRAZY, going to bed at 1:30 am and getting up to work at 5am and not getting it done, so much to be done.

Don't worry, I'm better, please don't freak out about me, it's okay here. Just having side effects on bac because I'm drinking, usually at 40mg I don't have side effects unless I'm having stomach issues which I am now having. I have cured it before and am doing so again.

Thanks for being so kind as to call - I'm not calling anyone right now, just can't do it. I went to bed at 1:30, got to sleep around two, and the phone started ringing at THREE AM. And at six, and at 8 three times. It's just nonstop right now. Gotta go, been on the phone or in the car or bent over the phone and computer far too many hours.

Best of luck with your studies, sounds like you're killing it. That last applies to you to DG. I will catch up over the weekend on everyone else.

[RudyB]

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hey bruun!

phew and ow! sounds like you're getting run ragged. i hope this week winds down for you swiftly by five tomorrow.

hugs.

and dg, red, that wasn't nice to steal all the men! you know how much i'd have appreciated one!

[Doggygirl]

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Bruun, so glad you are OK - even though stressed, etc. is certainly not as "OK" as we would wish for you!!!!!! I'm hoping you have a peaceful and stress free day tomorrow.

Red, you have so much wonderful info about "alternative" medicine / healing. We are so lucky to have you here sharing! I have not heard of Ayurveda before but I really AM coming to believe that business about the gut and health. One of my friends has been dealing with a baffling (to the traditional MD types) array of symptoms for a few years now and I'm wondering if she has heard about this.

rudyb, you can have my hundy man for a night, ok? i'll just have to settle for my husband. he's fabulous so handing you a hunk is no big sacrifice. :H

DG

[RudyB]

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gee, thanks, doggy. right about now would do just fine. send him over! and thanks for hailing up my rays of light in indiana i mean illinois. our shines are zoomin back and forth, and i see they're making pretty rainbows.

i am in dire need of night cream for my hands and face, especially so with the cold drying out the air. i was rustling around a drawer in search of a solution, when i came upon a jar of coconut oil! whoopee! perfect! i think your mention of it (dg or red?) must've sprinkled the 'arrive' dust on that treasure. my skin feels so creamy and my hands aren't stiff anymore.

dg, great luck with your studies! so nice to hear you find them so engaging, and how wonderful about that man whom so many good people support.

redthread, great stuff! makes me think of how healthy 'primitive' cultures were, due in huge part to their diet full of fermented foods and raw milk and whatnot. makes me think of weston price and sally fallon and the knowledge that their work has brought forth. and about how many wonderful, ancient traditions we can draw from in order to heal. sounds like you've had some wonderful experiences with your explorations. thanks mucho for sharing.

'kay, night nite all! gotta get some z's so i can get my shine on in the mornin'.

xoxo rudy b

[Doggygirl]

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Good morning Brutus and friends. Wishing everyone a peaceful day. I know that sounds really corny. But it's true - I really wish you guys that. :l

DG

[Isolde]

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Rusty;1195406 wrote: Hi Everybody,

It's been a while since I've been here.

Is, my sister has IC right now. She's had it for more than a month. She's been living on eggs, toast and oatmeal. She has good HOURS and then it turns bad. She's trying to make an appt. with a specialist. I would be more specific except we have guys on this thread.

What's up with the coconut oil? I mean....um, well....I think I might embarrass myself here....isn't it used as a lubricant....soooo.....ok.... you mix it with something and drink it? Just answer the question, will ya?

I will try and find Bruun right now.

Rusty, I feel for your sister. Coconut oil has SAVED me. As soon as I began taking it, most of my symptoms completely disappeared (the pain, urgency, irritation). I would recommend she give it a try ASAP and see if she doesn't get some relief. Make sure she gets the unrefined virgin coconut oil. There are a ton of ways to use it. I take 3 tbsp a day, spaced out. In the morning and afternoon, I stir a tablespoon into my hot beverage (limited now because of the IC diet, but I found a great coffee substitute called Teecino that I love). It's also really good in oatmeal. Sometimes I'll warm up a cup of milk in the microwave and stir a tablespoon into that. Other times I eat it straight from the spoon, or nuke it for a few seconds to liquefy it and drink it that way, usually with a milk chaser (I'm drinking only raw milk these days). Another thing she can try that I've recently read about is a supplement called Cystoprotek. It's gotten some really great reviews from IC sufferers. Check it out - Amazon.com: Cystoprotek Soft Gel Capsules, 120-Count Bottle: Health & Personal Care

Despite being mostly symptom free right now, one issue I am dealing with that I don't see mentioned on any of the IC-related sites I've read is water retention. I must be holding on to about 6 lbs. of water right now. If I eat or drink something that's high on the list of things NOT to ingest on the IC list, I won't get a flare, but within about half an hour, my body will start to swell in response. It's incredibly frustrating. I'm also dealing with some joint pain all of a sudden, even though I've stopped weight training for the time being. There are a few other symptoms that I won't mention here. So far, everything is very mild. I think it's because I was in such good health for so long prior to this rearing its ugly head.

I hope your sister gets some relief soon. I've got an appointment this afternoon for an ultrasound and am seeing a specialist next week. I am hoping they will find something else to account for all of these symptoms, but I doubt it. They probably will completely dismiss me as I'm not really experiencing any classic IC symptoms right now. I am just sticking to the coconut oil, hoping that eventually it will eradicate the IC from my body, and trying to stick to the IC diet as well, in the hopes that my body will soon realize it no longer has to retain all of this water as what I can only assume is an inflammatory response.

Redhead, thanks so much for the dressing suggestions! It's good to know I have some options in that department. Although in the past I have used a mashed up avocado with lime juice as a salad dressing and enjoy it quite a bit. I don't dare test things with tomatoes yet! Maybe once I feel like I'm "out of the woods", which I am still hoping will happen. I have to hope I can actually beat this thing, and not just "learn to live with it", else I will have a hard time carrying on, to be honest.

RedThread12, awesome information about Ayurveda! I have definitely heard of it, but don't know that much about it. I am very open to alternative treatments. And I do believe that MANY afflictions begin in the gut. I am taking probiotics daily (especially important now that ALL fermented foods are forbidden on the IC diet! :upset. I was considering possibly seeing a naturopath if I couldn't kick it myself with just coconut oil and diet. I'm so distrustful of Western medicine, that I actually initially cancelled both my ultrasound and specialist appointments, deciding to just try and handle it myself. But then I thought, "What if it's something else?" So I'll do the initial appts. and go from there.

Bruun! Glad you were able to grab a second and check in. I hope your hectic schedule calms down soon! After things calm down, you should book yourself a massage!!

Roo, glad to hear that you're feeling better! I am too. Yesterday I started taking again this fat burner called OxyElite Pro. It's not even for the fat burning properties (which juding from the last time I took it back in August, there aren't any! :H). But what it does for my mood and energy levels are amazing. And I needed SOMETHING to help me. I was seriously dealing with the "I no longer have the will to live" feeling on a day-to-day basis and I was having a hard time coping with absolutely everything in my life. I forgot what it was like to feel happy. Now, as of yesterday, it's like I've done a 180. I don't even care that it's only because of a pill, and not because I did the work. I needed something that would help me right away, because things were getting bleaker and bleaker.

We finally got our first "cold" front of the season yesterday, so last night I went for a run outside (instead of on the treadmill at the gym) when I got home from work, and it was fantastic! It was so nice to be out in the cool fresh air that is so rare here. It was so nice that I think I'll do it again tonight! Because after the weekend, it's going to start warming up again.

DG - thanks so much for all of the positive vibes and for keeping the hotel alive!! :l Is it too late to catch a hunky man? I think I'm ready now.
By the way, congrats on your A!! :goodjob:
Amazing about the guy who beat heroin addiction and how he got an A - there is nothing like achieving something to make you believe in yourself and give you the motivation to keep trying for bigger and better things!

And Roo, I know what you mean about having positive people around you. Between you guys here and my real world friends who have been SO unbelievably supportive and uplifting in the last couple of weeks, I feel very lucky indeed. :h

Happy Friday to all!

[Isolde]

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RudyB;1195404 wrote:
i am going down to 120 tomorrow, so we'll be hot-steppin it together! i have zero cravings for ale, even with the numerous times, like today, that i've tried to tempt myself to have some, to feel better, to deal with that hint of hunger. but when i shopped, i didn't even notice the beer. the less extra medicine i take, the better, just like you seem to think.

Glad to hear you're doing so well on less bac! I am sticking at 140 for now. I'd like to stay higher for awhile, but between the insomnia and the anxiety, I just couldn't do it. I am still getting the tossing and turning (sleep for 2 hours and wake up, lay there awhile before falling back asleep, sleep for another 2 hours, etc.) on 140, but the anxiety is much better. I'll hang out here for as long as I can.

Things will really be tested tomorrow - it's the bachelorette party for my brother's fiancee. I do plan to have a few drinks, but would really just like to focus on hanging out with the girls and having fun. Ideally, alcohol will just be an afterthought. So far, in the 2 weeks that I've become indifferent (again), I really haven't thought about AL much at all. Well, there were a few times when I was so friggin depressed, that I thought about having a drink or 2 just as an escape, but it wasn't very appealing. I'm glad I didn't give in to the thought. It was easy not to.
I might bump back up to 160 today and tomorrow, and maybe for a day or two afterwards, just as some extra insurance.