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[bleep]

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It sounds more stringent than the standards they use here for adopting a human! What's the problem with teflon pans, dogs and an apartment? It's going to live in a cage! It's not like you are going to be cooking for it?!

They won't let you adopt a parrot if you smoke? Again, I go back to the human comparison. Friends of ours have just adopted their second child here. Both of them are smoking, drinking partiers. The adults, not the kids.

What a weird place you people live in!

[windycitylady]

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Yeah, I was a bad mom and smoked around the bird. I was much more careful about it when he was little, but over the years I got lazy. But, at the time of his death, the vet said his heart and lungs were healthy. Bleep, teflon pans give off toxic fumes when overheated that are bad for humans and poisonous for birds. As for having big dogs, the poor bird's gotta come out of the cage sometime. And the apartment thing isn't about the bird, it's for us humans! Guess you've never heard how loud a large parrot can scream.you're noble for wanting to rescue a bird, ne. I would adopt unwanted dogs, cats, and rabbits, but never a bird. They're too complex and psychological, and a damaged one is a sad, miserable thing that will probably never learn to love again.
Enough about birds! I could go on all day...

[windycitylady]

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Going up to 90 mg tomorrow, and going to try to maintain a strict titration (sp?) Schedule after that. Looks like it might be a slow couple weeks at work for me. Bad financially, but good for going up on bac. Founf some old naltrexone in with my supplements. It's been years, but I remember it really helping. It was strange, I felt like I was seeing the world for the first time through the eyes of a nonaddicted person. I think I quit cause it was hard on my stomach, and I just missed enjoying drinking. Maybe if I can't handle the bac, that's something to think about. Now this TSM method is something that's come out long after I was on naltrexone. I guess I understand the idea, but naltrexone is so hard on your liver! Seems kinda counterintuitive.
I am so lucky to have the support that I do. My father's probably the most amazing person I've ever met, and the fact that he has cancer makes my quitting all the more urgent. My sobriety would be the greatest gift I could give him and myself. He's been sober for 10 years now, but he still struggles with questions of god and spirituality, and he's great to talk to about such things. (He's a brilliant, retired social worker who worked exclusively with very disturbed teenagers. He's great to talk to about anything!) Like I said before, my boyfriend's very supportive too, though I think he's kinda sick of hearing me talk about bac all the time, and has wondered aloud why I haven't made much of an effort to cut back on drinking. Thanks all! Hope everything's going well!

[Murphyx]

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Birds creep me out. I don't know why. Just the very nonmammalianness (I'm pretty sure that's a real word ) of them seems to get to me. Fish also have that affect on me. But birds? Yikes, they're so much worse. They're so alien. I can't touch them. I can't really stand being near them.

Ewwwwwww, I DON'T LIKE BIRDS!!!

My mother used to have budgies, maybe she still does I have no idea.

Oh no, is there a Freudian in the house?:H

WindyLady, your dad sounds great. I have nothing but the utmost respect for Social Workers. People don't understand just how much good they do and how important that contribution to society is. He spent his career working with troubled teenagers? Top man! As far as I'm concerned, you don't get more important than that. :l

[windycitylady]

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A LOT of people hate or are terrified of birds! I don't judge. But I do hold Alfred Hitchcock responsible!

Yeah, dad's pretty awesome. Wish we lived in the same state.

Dammit! Don't have enough bac to titrate up. Very frustrating, as the timing is perfect with work being slow. As soon as I get the email that my next shipment has arrived in the US, I'm going up again. Hope all's well with you guys! BTW, am I the only actual newbie around this thread? Well, thanks for all you old timers checking in!

[bleep]

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It's got nothing to do with Hitchcock, it's their freaky, strange, got-no-arms look... And their very weird personalities. My dad has an African Grey that he has had for about 10 years. If it gets a chance, it will bite both him and I. My sister feeds it from her tongue, but us, it will savage, given a chance. I keep telling him it would look better between two slices of bread...

Where are Evey, Zephra and the gang??

[Evey]

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Hello Everyone...

Hi Windycitylady and :welcome:

I have been meaning to post and say hello. I'm not new but I never created a thread, so this is where I post.

Windy city, don't feel like you are being too personal. I would love it if I could get my husband to take more vitamins. I have a ton of vitamins and I have them stored in my fridge. A little embarrassing when people come over and see how many are in there. So, it would be great if he was more willing to take them and I could get rid of some of them faster but then maybe he would want some of the ones I want to keep and the costs would add up. I received the Piracetam today in the mail. I had been debating ordering it for quite a while. Hopefully it helps with the spacey feeling at work.

How many mgs are you taking now? The way that Bac has cut my drinking down is incredible. Hopefully you will get the same results. Get ready for the ride...

So to update: Today I took 180; I took 170mg prior to that. I haven't had any alcohol since the weekend, when I was at a boring party and they had a good punch there. The party was during the day and I hadn?t take much of my Bac by that time, so I had 2 ? glasses. Other than that I had nothing to drink at all this week and I had one sip of wine tonight. Red wine and beer taste terrible to me now. I was in the store the other day just craving some flavored sparkling water. I just wanted it so bad. I was even thinking about going into a store to buy some so I didn't have to wait until I came home.


I was really struggling about whether or not to increase the Bac. My quality at work is getting pretty bad. Everything is measured; there is no room for debate. I am getting the numbers back from when I was taking relatively small amounts of Bac and they aren?t good, so I hope that it doesn't get worse. I think some of it may be from the Bac but a lot comes from being distracted at work and looking at the internet. So, I was scared to increase the amount that I took and make the insomnia worse and make my lack of focus at work worse. I realized I just need to get this done and over with and then come back down to a lower Bac dose.

I have been having a real problem with motivation and have been coming home and crashing at night for a few hours. I have been trying to take all of my dose before 4 or 5 and I don't know if this is really helping with sleep, so I may take it spaced out more evenly and this would probably not make me crash so much and I wouldn't feel so spacey at work. I just need to have a few more days of not wanting to drink and then maybe I will come down in my dose. It's a good thing that I wasn't getting that much accomplished around the house before so it's not that much of a difference. I really don't know how the mothers on here do it; I just can't even imagine it.

Sorry if this is a really boring post. I also can?t seem to string together words very good tonight.

bleep;1116980 wrote: It sounds more stringent than the standards they use here for adopting a human! What's the problem with teflon pans, dogs and an apartment? It's going to live in a cage! It's not like you are going to be cooking for it?!

They won't let you adopt a parrot if you smoke? Again, I go back to the human comparison. Friends of ours have just adopted their second child here. Both of them are smoking, drinking partiers. The adults, not the kids.

What a weird place you people live in!

Bleep, If you want to adopt an animal from a rescue group here you have to provide personal references and veterinary references. The organization will probably also want to come out to your house and do a a visit to see the living environment and to make sure that your other pets get along with the animal that you are trying to adopt. It's a lot easier to just buy a dog or cat, it's pretty much no questions asked.

[bleep]

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Evey!

Good to see you again. It sounds like you are really close. Drinking because it tastes nice, and you are otherwise bored? When in your life has that been the case?

The SE's are kicking you though, which is a shame. Doubtless you agree! Evening out the dose will help, a little, but unfortunately, taking lots of baclofen has side effects. You'll get there. Your figures at work will hopefully turn around in a fashion that will seem unbelievable to you. The fact that they are measured is fantastic, you will be the first person who has quantitative results we can all gloat over. Can you not take your boss aside and explain you are on a temporary medication that is affecting your results, that it will be over in a month or two, and you will resume normal activity then? No need to explain in detail what the story is, most people get all embarrassed at the mention of medication, so you won't have to go further.

This pet thing blows my mind. Vet references?? "Yes, Mr Smith has all the necessary vaccines. I'm a bit worried about...!!!" Jesus! The guy is a vet! Sick animals! I'm going to have to accept there is a very different outlook with regards to animals here and there!

Our chickens have stopped laying eggs. They will be in the staff's pot very shortly. Not for them a golden retirement, with counseling, daily petsitting and foot massages! I'm vaguely reminded of the film "Chicken Run" but then I look at their vacuus little eyes, and wonder at this pet syndrome so many people seem to have. Admittedly, they aren't dogs, but I wonder what would happen to them "over there!"

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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bleep;1117694 wrote: Evey!

Can you not take your boss aside and explain you are on a temporary medication that is affecting your results, that it will be over in a month or two, and you will resume normal activity then? No need to explain in detail what the story is, most people get all embarrassed at the mention of medication, so you won't have to go further.

I think this is some really, really good advice. It's legitimate in that there are many common antidepressants anti-anxiety meds that have insomnia as an SE. There are also insomnia meds that make one out of it during the day if you don't want to go the whole, "I'm having a tough time" route. I was pretty flakey when I was a drunk (to say the least) so it was no shock to my employer that I was seeking treatment for depression/anxiety. And no shock that I had 'terrible' SEs from the medication (pristiq was my excuse. It's new, and has a laundry list of SEs that fit right in, and A LOT of people have them. That stuff sounds like poison! :H)
But also no surprise that my doctor wanted me to stick it out for a month to see if the SEs were mitigated, since that's also common procedure.
Anyway, the bottom line was pointed out by bleep, and by you, yourself, Evey. If you can muster through the next couple of weeks you will not believe your productivity. I can't. I simply can't believe how clear and focused I am. I can't believe how clean/organized my home is! And that's just the artificially-flavored-sweetened-white-stuff on the top aspect.

Let me know how the piracetam works, will you? I haven't ordered any yet, but will today.

Hang in there!
Ne
(bleep, my friend, as I pointed out in another thread: You will never begin to understand the pet thing in this country. It boggles my mind that other cultures don't treat their pets like family, but rather like animals. We have doggy doors and doggy shrinks and doggy clothes. Those chickens would be very safe and happy making a mess in my back yard for their natural lives, and then would probably receive a burial! I'm only halfway kidding. I figure that if they gave up their eggs for me for as long as they could, then I owe them or something. I could go on and on and on. Suffice it to say, petsitters are worth their weight in gold, birds are fascinating, and pets, any pet, is family.)

[bleep]

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How on earth does a dog shrink work? I would imagine a common language is the very least requirement of any competent shrink. Would you go to one who spoke only Russian, and expect results? You are being taken for a ride, my good friends!

The only reason babysitters exist is to stop children from killing themselves, which they would do several times over in an unsupervised session. Animals aren't as prone to this sort of thing, so there is no need to have them watched if you are away.

Let me point something out about the chickens - now you have 10 chickens that no longer lay eggs, and will live a few more years. Because you want eggs, you get more chickens. In a few years, you will have dozens of geriatric chickens, and only a few that lay eggs. Something has to be done! It may sound a bit harsh, and I suppose it probably is, but that's life, if you are a chicken.

[Evey]

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Thanks Ne and I will let you know how the Piracetam goes.

Telling my boss isn't really an option. My boss has a big mouth (sad to say and wish I could put it nicer) and everyone would know. I would have to come up with something really good; something that would not be a big deal for others to find out about. Also, I'm sure one way or another it would get documented and I am not taking this through a real prescription from my insurance, if it went any higher, I wouldn't want to deal with the mess. I'm already sitting at work popping pills all day, no one can really see me, but how self conscious would I be if I told and everyone knew. It was really good advice Bleep, I appreciate it. It would be the common sense thing to do. Hopefully, it will all work out.

I have to disagree about the chickens though. Sadly, livestock in America are treated terribly. If you ever want to see an example of this Bleep, rent Food, Inc. You can watch it on YouTube for free. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVFKEWL6DVU[/video]]YouTube - ‪Food, Inc.‬‏ (I don't know how to get the link to look nicer) Very good movie. So chickens get no love. I know a couple of humane people that raise chickens for their eggs and they would all eat them. In fact, both of them have actually raised chickens at one time for the sole purpose of meat. I guess we really got off into a pet/animal tangent.

[RudyB]

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Ahhh, so much to respond to here, no surprise...
...here comes a long post...

Chickens, I used to keep them. My first flock was beeautiful! I carefully ordered a variety of breeds from a hatchery, raised them well, let them free range. They provided many eggs and showed their incredible beauty every day, prancing about my lawn (silkies, orpingtons, barred rocks, cochins, etc.).

My labor birthing my beautiful son lasted over a day, and when we came back in a rainstorm, our chickens were gone! poof! my theory is that our neighbor's dog came and chased them into the flooding brook. no bodies were ever found.

anyway, the chicken legacy contined here for a couple more years. when they started coming into my house every time the door was opened, i gave them away, to a guy i met on craig's list who came to get scrap metal. he later became my exciting first boyfriend since leaving my husband, and is now still a good friend. I miss the fresh eggs, tho he gives me some sometimes, but I don't miss the poop on my stoop.

Windy Lady, you are not the only newbie here. I am one, and I'm reading and loving your posts. Aren't the oldies so awesome for stopping by so often?!

Murph, I love your love for Windy's dad. You must love me, too, then. I work with mostly 8th graders (14 yrs old) in the poorest district in NY state. Many of them are definitely very troubled, and come from NADA. Thanks for the appreciation.

Someone -you Windy?- mentioned getting funny looks for taking so many supplements. At work I find myself gulping my supps in the faculty room, and I do sense that I'm getting some surreptitious glances... ah, let it be! I feel so fortunate to have the knowledge to take what I do for my own benefit. Many in this county wouldn't even begin to consider it. And I think the mortality rate here is younger because of that, at least in part.

Evey, I think that is frigggggin awesome that you are craving sparkling water! I am right behind you.

Bleep, where, again, do you live? Is it you who lives in Zimbabwe?

Well, all, I'm impressed with myself here, for having strung together so many words. As I creep up in bac, I'm starting to notice what others talk about: word-stringing can become difficult at times (to say nothing of apostrophes!).

Love Y'all.
Rudy

[windycitylady]

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I think we all can agree chickens are different from dogs and parrots. Though I couldn't do it myself, I don't have a problem with chickens being killed when they no longer produce eggs. Get this, my family raises chickens and peacocks! Peacocks are awesome.
I'm at 70 mgs, can't go up until I get more, but I have enough to stay at 70 until then. Feeling spacy tonight. Got my ass kicked at work. Just looking forward to a couple hours at home before heading back tomorrow. Really been hating my job lately.
Sorry this is rambling and boring. Please post about piracetam!!! I really wanna know how well it works. I've found people on the web who love it. One guy was taking grams (GRAMS!) every 3 hours!

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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Alrighty roo. First things first. If one more person apologizes for being rambling I'm going to start taking it personally. Have you seen my posts? I know you have. They are ENDLESS, completely random and no longer edited. So fear not about posting, despite all the froofra about it, okay?

As to the chickens and the food industry. Egad. The food industry. bleep, that is something you most likely do not have in Zim, unless it's a multinational exploiting your precious resources to grow something to export to us. but I digress. Food, Inc. is a good place to start.

I was referring to people like Rudy, (and you make my heart sing sister, with your menagerie!) who have the birds for other reasons. (sorry about their demise. :-(

Anyway, I would like to raise chickens but can't here, since I'm in a city with controls on that sort of thing. And I wouldn't be able to kill 'em and eat 'em I don't think.

Pets are a different animal in these parts. No amount of 'splainin will help, bleep.

Evey, I'm really excited for where you are in your bac-journey. I'm sorry it comes with such a price, atm. It also sucks about your boss. I wasn't suggesting that you, or anyone, tell anything about taking bac. That has not gone over well in my world, I can't imagine it would be any better in yours. Well thought out subterfuge is a good tool, imho. Then again, I am a little wavery on the concept of absolute honesty, when the repercussions are too great... Maybe that explains my alcoholism? and :H

Peacocks are cool. I bet bleep has them roaming around city streets, along with lions and tigers and bears, oh my! My dad wants to get some, which is a whole 'nother long story... It turns out they are lower on the food chain than owls, though. And there are A LOT of owls at their country house. It also turns out that what the owls do is fly through the air, spy a peacock roosting in a tree, and behead the poor thing while it sleeps. I heard this from a neighbor who has peacocks out there and said she finds the heads along with a bunch of feathers some mornings. So she simply orders more eggs and starts a new batch every year or two. She's a bit of a strange bird, herself...

I hope you get your bac soon, windy. Very soon. Keep us posted about that!

bleep, I once called a dog-whisperer who said she could read dog's minds. I'm not kidding. I'm not proud of that ridiculousness, but I'm not lyin' either. (I had a particularly troubled dog that I was fostering, hoping to train it and find it a good home, one in which I had inspected and approved. One in which the adoption process was more onerous than adopting a child in many, many countries! And yes, we call it adoption, here!)

She had me at hello! But she lost me when she told me that she didn't do house calls.
She told me that if I held the phone up to the dog's ear she could talk to it and would be able to tell me what the dog was thinking. And for all of this she charged $50! For a half hour! The recommendation for calling this chick was from someone that I had previously respected! I kid not. Glad I'm not that drunk anymore...

Hope it's a good day, ladies! And a nice evening, bleep!
xo
Ne

[Evey]

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Eva,
As far as work, I didn't think you were suggesting telling about the Bac. If the work environment were a little less corporate, it would be a possibility. My boss does have good attributes, being a cool boss and sympathetic. For now though, the medication will not be brought into the mix. The bac may be part of the problem, but the overall distraction at work is the real problem and that was there before the bac. I am valuable there though, so, I am basically split into two people at the moment-one with good self esteem about the situation and one with little. I think it will all be okay, actually I almost know it will be-the little self esteem side of my brain is pulling me down.

All things aside, Bac is great, sure there are side effects that you have to deal with, but I haven't had a weekend with a hangover in two months-that's a MIRACLE ! One small hangover once and it wasn't that bad at all. Waking up in the morning, there is no longer that dreaded walk to the mirror to see how bad things look, sure there is redness in the morning but eye drops work great for that.

It's given me back my life, just have to work out the whole evening nap thing and get my motivation going. I did manage to plant a ton of plants yesterday-never would have happened in one day before. I would be nursing my first drink around 2 pm and today would probably be me telling myself that I would have just have one and then I could get around to all the shopping and other things that had to be done and that would never happen. Weekend after weekend.