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    #16
    Lol

    just a thought....

    Sheesh, really amazed he keeps trying. I am still trying to figure out if this is a safe place because of whatever Free-Ass Whoever posting.

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      #17
      Leafy - sending you a PM

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        #18
        I just received an email from Spiritwolf/free to my personal email account, which he persuaded me to disclose to him. As a caution to users of this forum about people wanting to be your friend, because they, so THEY say, think you are wonderful and want to be your "friend", here is what SF has sent me:

        "David, I do feel very, very sorry and sad for you.

        You turned out to be everything all had warned me that your were.
        Good luck with your treatment counseling and promotion.

        I wish you well as you continue to struggle through this life."


        Hmmm.... what an odd man.
        BACLOFENISTA

        baclofenuk.com

        http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





        Olivier Ameisen

        In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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          #19




          Life is great. We could not have done this without baclofen. I am at sailing classes having a Coke on Fathers day.
          BACLOFENISTA

          baclofenuk.com

          http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





          Olivier Ameisen

          In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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            #20
            Originally posted by terryk View Post

            ...Baclofen has been proven effacious in several studies including a double-blind random controlled trial:



            High-dose baclofen for the treatment of alcohol dependence (BACLAD study): a randomized, placebo-controlled trial.

            M?_ller CA1, Geisel O2, Pelz P2, Higl V2, Kr?_ger J2, Stickel A2, Beck A2, Wernecke KD3, Hellweg R2, Heinz A2.



            Abstract



            Previous randomized, placebo-controlled trials (RCTs) assessing the efficacy of the selective γ-aminobutyric acid (GABA)-B receptor agonist baclofen in the treatment of alcohol dependence have reported divergent results, possibly related to the low to medium dosages of baclofen used in these studies (30-80mg/d). Based on preclinical observations of a dose-dependent effect and positive case reports in alcohol-dependent patients, the present RCT aimed to assess the efficacy and safety of individually titrated high-dose baclofen for the treatment of alcohol dependence. Out of 93 alcohol-dependent patients initially screened, 56 were randomly assigned to a double-blind treatment with individually titrated baclofen or placebo using dosages of 30-270mg/d. The multiple primary outcome measures were (1) total abstinence and (2) cumulative abstinence duration during a 12-week high-dose phase. More patients of the baclofen group maintained total abstinence during the high-dose phase than those receiving placebo (15/22, 68.2% vs. 5/21, 23.8%, p=0.014). Cumulative abstinence duration was significantly higher in patients given baclofen compared to patients of the placebo group (mean 67.8 (SD 30) vs. 51.8 (SD 29.6) days, p=0.047). No drug-related serious adverse events were observed during the trial. Individually titrated high-dose baclofen effectively supported alcohol-dependent patients in maintaining alcohol abstinence and showed a high tolerability, even in the event of relapse. These results provide further evidence for the potential of baclofen, thereby possibly extending the current pharmacological treatment options in alcohol dependence.





            Suppression of alcohol dependence using baclofen: a 2-year observational study of 100 patients.

            de Beaurepaire R1.



            Abstract

            AIMS:



            The purpose of this study was to examine the long-term effects of baclofen in a large cohort of alcohol-dependent patients compliant to baclofen treatment.

            METHODS:



            A hundred patients with alcohol dependence, resistant to usual treatments, were treated with escalating doses of baclofen (no superior limit). Alcohol consumption (in grams) and craving for alcohol were assessed before treatment and at 3, 6, 12, and 24 months. Assessments were simply based on patients' statements. The outcome measure was the consumption of alcohol, rated according to the World Health Organization criteria for risk of chronic harm.



            RESULTS:



            While all patients were rated "at high risk" at baseline, approximately half of them were rated "at low risk" at 3, 6, 12, and 24 months. The sum of patients who were at "low risk" and at "moderate risk" (improved patients) was 84% at 3 months, 70% at 6 months, 63% at 1 year, and 62% at 2 years. The constancy of improvement over the 2-years was remarkable. The average maximal dose of baclofen taken was 147 mg/day. Ninety-two percentage of patients reported that they experienced the craving-suppressing effect of baclofen. Significant relationships were found between the amount in grams of alcohol taken before treatment and the maximal dose of baclofen required, and between the existence of a mental disorder and a lesser effect of baclofen.



            CONCLUSION:



            Baclofen produces an effortless decrease or suppression of alcohol craving when it is prescribed with no superior limit of dose. Potential limitations in the effectiveness of baclofen include the coexistence of a mental disorder, the concomitant use of other psychotropic drugs, a lack of real motivation in patients to stop drinking, and the impossibility to reach the optimal dose of baclofen because of unbearable side-effects (sometimes possibly related to too sharp a protocol of dose escalation).





            Abstinence and 'low-risk' consumption 1 year after the initiation of high-dose baclofen: a retrospective study among 'high-risk' drinkers.

            Rigal L1, Alexandre-Dubroeucq C, de Beaurepaire R, Le Jeunne C, Jaury P.



            Abstract

            AIMS:



            The aim of the study was to assess the proportions of 'high-risk' drinkers' abstinent or with 'low-risk' consumption levels 1 year after the initiation of high-dose baclofen.



            METHODS:



            This is a retrospective 'open' study; the outcome of this study was to assess the level of alcohol consumption in the 12th month of treatment.

            RESULTS:



            Of the 181 patients included, a follow-up evaluation was possible in 132 patients. The initial alcohol consumption of the 132 patients analysed averaged 182 ?? 92 g/day. After 1 year, 80% of the 132 (i.e. 58% of 181) were either abstinent (n = 78) or drinking at low-risk levels (n = 28) in their 12th month of treatment. The mean baclofen dose at 1 year was 129 ?? 71 mg/day.

            CONCLUSION:



            High-dose baclofen should be tested in randomized placebo-controlled trials among high-risk drinkers.



            -tk


            Thanks, Tk.

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              #21
              Hi Cass I do miss reading your posts and certainly understand your reasons for not posting anymore. I am thankful that I was here during the times that you did post and I am thankful to be able to go back and read your prior posts.

              Originally posted by Cassander View Post
              I was inspired by reading of Godwhacker's just found indifference this week -- as I have been by all of the stories that precede his.

              I just want to say that I find some (most, in fact) of the thinking and writing about alcohol, alcoholism, anxiety, baclofen and recovery which is put up on this board to be the most thoughtful and lucid and convincing writing on the subject that I have seen anywhere. To this reader, there is no question that alcoholics who are responsive to baclofen and not confounded by side effects find incredible and indisputable relief..

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                #22
                :thanks:
                With profound appreciation to Dr Olivier Ameisen for his brilliant insight and courageous determination

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                  #23
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                    #24
                    Re: Let's Shout it from the Rooftops

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                    With profound appreciation to Dr Olivier Ameisen for his brilliant insight and courageous determination

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