Help in uk please!

[tto99]

I made the same mistake again.
I ordered baclofen from Goldpharma and they sent me antibiotics instead.
What I have would last till tomorrow. The replacement would come on Monday only.
If anyone who lives in UK would be able to help me I would be more than grateful.
I will pay by any method or send the baclofen back whatever preferable.
I need at least 850 mg.
I have been thru withdrawal hell before and I know what nightmare I will have to survive till Monday.
Like an idiot I didn’t bother to check my stock before placing an order.
Thank you!
Please either reply here or email to tto99@yahoo.com.
Eugene

[terryk]

Hi tto,

Sorry, I'm not in the UK... but have you tried to get a legitimate script through Dr. Jonathan Chick? Hudstar (a new MWO member from the UK) has just had luck with him: https://www.mywayout.org/community/sh...82#post1591082


Here's the most current contact info I could find for him:
jonathan.chick@gmail.com

Insight Nutrition - 35 Melville Street, Edinburgh

-tk

[tto99]

Thanks! But unfortunately I can't go to Edinburg now. My wife is abroad and I can't leave the dog. Anyway go there in the state I am now would be suicidal.
Withdrawal symptoms already started!

[Hudstar]

Hi TT,

I have an appointment to see Dr Chick this Friday in London. He has been perfectly kind and willing to help me in his emails. He also visits clinics in London (Harley Street) regularly, so you could discuss meeting him there - if that's easier for you than Edinburgh.

Bear in mind that he only prescribes a maximum daily dose of 90mg baclofen. I'm not sure why, especially considering the efficacy of high dose baclofen attested to by the users of MWO and the pioneer, Dr Amiesen, who Dr Chick has collaborated with. I trust his reasons though and I'm just glad to be getting a prescription.

My plan is to use the supply of baclofen that I order online and continue taking my protocol to the dose required to hit my switch. Then titrate down and use the 90mg prescription as my daily maintenance dose. Well... the plan feels good on paper at least!

I hope the withdrawals aren't too sever for you. I purchased my bac from River pharmacy in Canada

https://www.riverpharmacy.ca/drug/baclofen

Good luck TT!

[tto99]

Thanks! Please advise how can I get in touch with him (email, phone?)

[Hudstar]

You can email him at jonathan.chick@gmail.com

[tto99]

Thank you!

[tto99]

Oh dear... I am not sure if I would be able to get to London this Friday even if Dr. Chick would agree to see me. I feel a total wreck today, hands shaking, blurred vision, depersonalisation... On top of this I have the dog on my hands who needs walking..

[Hudstar]

Don't panic. You might not have been able to schedule a meeting so soon. I booked my consultation about four weeks ago. Just do what you need to do to relax and when you're feeling better get in touch with him.

[terryk]

Oh dear... I am not sure if I would be able to get to London this Friday even if Dr. Chick would agree to see me. I feel a total wreck today, hands shaking, blurred vision, depersonalisation... On top of this I have the dog on my hands who needs walking..

tto - If you are experiencing Baclofen withdrawal, I strongly recommend that you seek professional medical attention immediately

.Disclaimer: I am not a doctor or medical professional.

Now is a good time to give some general information on what to do if you are running low on baclofen, if you can no longer obtain baclofen from your regular supplier, or if you run out.

Why this is important:


Abruptly stopping baclofen, or stopping too rapidly, can cause withdrawal symptoms in any person that has been taking baclofen at any dose level for any length of time.

Severe withdrawal symptoms usually occur more frequently in people who have been taking higher doses for longer periods of time, but everyone's individual body chemistry is different and your experience may vary.

Titrating Down Safely (and comfortably):

It's been widely recommended that anyone who wants (or needs) to taper down or off baclofen do so by decreasing no more than 10mg/d per week. That means if you are taking 200mg/day, it's week one at 200mg, week two at 190mg, etc.

There are reports of people on MWO who have been able to taper down faster than that with little or no trouble. Once again everyone's individual experience will be different and it's better to err on the safe side and have enough spare medication to go at the pace your body needs to go.

It's my firm recommendation that *everyone* that makes the decision to use baclofen, whether it be by self-medicating with pills/liquid purchased online, or through a bona-fide physician, take whatever steps necessary to secure enough baclofen to always have on hand to titrate down safely and comfortably in the event of an emergency.

How much baclofen to always have at hand to taper down at 10mg/d per week:[/b]

					
daily dose in mg        total mg needed    # of 10mg pills
10		        70                7                                    
20			210              21
30			420              42
40			700              70
50			1050            105
60			1470            147
70			1960            196
80			2520            252
90			3150            315
100			3850            385
110			4620            462
120			5460            546
130			6370            637
140			7350            735
150			8400            840
160			9520            952
170		        10710          1071
180			11970          1197
190			13300          1130
200		        14700          1470
210			16170          1617
220			17710          1771 
230			19320          1932
240		        21000          2100
250			22750          2275
260			24570          2457
270			26460          2646
280			28420          2842
290			30450          3045

To figure out how many pills you need, divide the total number of mg needed by the size in milligrams of the pills you have (10, 20, 25). If you have multiple pill sizes, just add all of the different amounts up to see if they equal the minimum mg to titrate down safely from a dosage. With liquid baclofen, total mg per bottle is mg per ml X # of ml in the bottle.

Total amounts for daily doses greater than 290mg/day can be calculated as follows:

For 400mg/day: (400X7)+(390X7)+(380X7)+etc all the way down to+(10X7)= a whole lotta milligrams and pills


Online Pharmacies

| medical and pharmaceutical articles at goldpharma
www.riverpharmacy.ca


note: some online pharmacies have blocked access from specific countries in the past for legal reasons. Using a proxy or VPN is (has been) a way around this barrier.

Asking for help on a baclofen forum

You can ask online if anyone has some spare baclofen to borrow until you can stock up from another supplier:

Topamax, Campral, Naltrexone, Baclofen, other meds - My Way Out Forums (English)
Baclofen for Alcoholism and Other Addictions - Baclofen for Alcoholism and Other Addictions (English)
Baclofen Forum gegen Alkoholsucht (german)
Baclofen Forum vs Alkoholismus • Foren-?œbersicht (german)
Forum alcoolisme et autres addictions - Alcoolisme et baclofène :: Accueil (french)


Doctors that prescribe baclofen:
https://www.mywayout.org/community/f2...ion-47247.html
https://www.mywayout.org/community/f2...ors-78141.html

Your regular physician / Hospital Emergency Department

You may be able explain your situation (or at least "a" situation) to you regular doctor or a doctor in the ER/ED/A&E and have them give you a few days/week/month script of baclofen at 80mg/day (the "recommended maximum") to give you some time to find another source - a week at 80/d will give someone at 200/d another 2 1/2 days. Baclofen is *not* a controlled substance, and it's not associated with drug-seeking behavior. That said, you probably won't find too many sympathetic physicians out there and might earn yourself an earful of scolding.

Switching brands

To minimize side-effects when switching brands always taper in the new baclofen whilst simultaneously tapering out the old, like this: Week 1: 100% Brand A, Week 2: 75% Brand A + 25% Brand B, Week 3: 50% Brand A + 50% Brand B, Week 4: 5% Brand A + 75% Brand B, Week 5: 100% Brand B

It's been reported that switching between liquid and solid baclofen can cause marked side-effects, so be extra careful when tapering the pills.

Running Out

It's been reported in medical literature that people taking baclofen become susceptible to withdrawal symptoms upon abrupt cessation (or too rapid downward titration) after about 1-2 months at a dosage level. That said, each individual's body chemistry will affect that person's experience, but it's safe to say the the majority of people who stop baclofen abruptly after taking any dose for more than a month or two will experience withdrawal symptoms.

As compared to alcohol or benzodiazepine withdrawal which can set in within 12-24 hours of cessation, onset of baclofen withdrawal can take from 1-4 days after the last dose. And unlike alcohol or benzo withdrawal which can be remedied quickly with a few doses of equivalent medication, resolution of baclofen withdrawal requires reinstitution of baclofen (with possibly additional medications) and may take 48 to 72 hours. [/b]

Acute baclofen withdrawal, especially from high dose, is a medical emergency. If you are experiencing it go immediately to your nearest ER, ED, A&E, and enlist the care of medical professionals.

[terryk]

It might not be a bad idea to print this article out to bring to your doctor:

[terryk]

[tto99]

Thanks Terryk.
But I've been thru it before. Local doctors have no clue about baclofen withdrawal. They put me on valium which was not much help but luckily my wife managed to persuade them to give me half my normal dose of baclofen.
Now she is away and my only hope is that I would be able to see Dr. Chick on Friday.
Tomorrow I would go to my GP and hopefully he would be able to prescribe me some baclofen or as a last resort valium.

[summerglow]

Where in the UK are you?

[tto99]

Barnet