Is there a Dr in US that will prescribe bac over Skype?

[_serenity_]

Star123 - PM sent re: a Chicago physician who prescribes high dose baclofen.

[Spiritfree]

Hope this helps you Star:

Dr. Dale John Giolas
200 Fox Glen
Barrington, IL

(847)381-8170

https://www.giolas.net

Star, I know nothing about this doctor and I am by no means endorsing him. He is the one that is posted on NE's new site. I am sorry they would not reveal this info here on MyWayOut.

Magnetic Brain Services offered by this doctor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJgUgHvlUlM&ebc=ANyPxKpFiudHUGaRompl-KvifKbRn2et2ujZXHBvYfSVaW0G_QNrKErHcc2hjFlVeh-Ww73Cmy5A

Edit: Star, as you have probably already realized, there are several members on our site recruiting people over to their site. It appears as though they do have a quality site, but it is still filled with same Baclofen rhetoric. However, they are primarily only offering comfort and support to those who are still drinking because they too are still drinking.

Star, if getting sober were as easy as taking a Baclofen pill, there would be no drunks left on the planet. Support their efforts but please use common sense if you really want to free yourself of alcohol.

Getting sober takes time, effort, and some pain, but in the end, it is so worth the effort.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

He is the one that is posted on NE's new site. I am sorry they would not reveal this info here on MyWayOut.

On the contrary, Spiritfree, this information was posted in a link right above yours. In addition to that, someone PMd her the information about another doctor.

It appears as though they do have a quality site, but it is still filled with same Baclofen rhetoric. However, they are primarily only offering comfort and support to those who are still drinking because they too are still drinking.

Again, you're completely and utterly incorrect.
There are many members who are completely sober and/or abstinent. There are several people who are members (and forum subscribers!) that haven't used medications at all in order to find long term and contented sobriety. They have created threads and a space where their information about how they ended their own addictions is freely shared without any worry of harassment or discouragement.

The mission statement of the forum located at http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org/ is as follows:

The primary purpose of this forum is to provide a place where people can lend and get support from one another in our journeys to End Addiction.

In this forum you will find:

?? Tools for how to live a sober, contented life
?? Information to take to your doctor to advocate for a prescription
?? An ever-growing list of doctors, by region, prescribing MATs
?? A comprehensive list of medications, both those approved for addiction treatment and those used off-label.
?? An extensive library of information, including research, articles, media and books with information about medications and addiction.

The forum has active administrators and moderators, and an efficient spam filter. Responses to issues will take less than 24 hours once they are reported.

With your help, we will create a safe and open forum to have discussions about all of the issues we face.

Unlike here, on MWO, where there aren't any moderators at all, and people who claim to be sober post really terrible, mean-spirited, malicious and often completely incorrect information late at night, though he claims to be completely abstinent.

[Spiritfree]

Hi NE and good evening. Quite simply, you are using this forum to garner traffic to your site. However NE, I really do not see a problem with doing this as far as the owner's of the forum go. In fact, I think that you are being given full permission to advertise your site on MWO site because they are not objecting to it.

It really would be a great thing if someone took over MWO and moderated it in a minimal but necessary way. I do believe that MWO is is on its way out and that is a sad revelation. NE, had the forum been moderated, you would have been dismissed months ago relative to your abusive and druken posts. Thankfully, for you, you have garnered the support of many members on this site and they are fleeing to you. When and if you ever get sober, you will be able to add to the lives of those struggling from this horrific disease. Until then, you will simply continue to operate on the need to fill your ego (to feel important and needed) and to justify your continued alcohol abuse.

In conclusion NE, at least you are doing things to try to help others, even if you are really only doing out of a sense to feel needed and wanted. It really does matter as long as you end up helping others.

(Thanks for trying to help get one of your friends to remove the horrific tags relative to me-at least you tried -right? Not.

[SKendall]

Snort.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Quite simply, you are using this forum to garner traffic to your site.

Yes, I am. I wish I didn't have to do that. But as you say...

It really would be a great thing if someone took over MWO and moderated it in a minimal but necessary way.

I tried to do just that. As you know, I reached out to the owner(s) of the site, and never heard back. Clearly they have moved on. I have been here for a VERY long time, and love MWO and credit the people here for helping me achieve 4 years of contented sobriety.

NE, had the forum been moderated, you would have been dismissed months ago relative to your abusive and druken posts.

As SK said, "Snort". I'm not the drunken, mean-spirited, malicious troll that sent people RUNNING from MWO.

(Thanks for trying to help get one of your friends to remove the horrific tags relative to me-at least you tried -right? Not.

I had nothing to do with that, at all, ever. Not my friends. Not my choice. Totally against my ethics.

Not that you didn't beg for all the harassment you've received. You did. Repeatedly. For years.
Still, I think it's wrong that your real name has been posted and used on this site. I've told you that.

You know I have no way or ability to control what people write here on this site. Very funny that you blame ME for the consequences of your own behavior and the posts of people I don't even know and have no control over. Definition of narcissism.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

I don't find any conflict in posting here AND on Ne's site.

First of all, the site is a collective effort of many people. It is not Ne's site. I helped, I may have started the whole process, but it is OUR site, not mine. I hope we get away from calling EOMA "Ne's site" soon.

I'm not being critical of you or your comment, Kuya. It's common for people to say that and I just want to try to get away from it and make sure that all the other people who participated and donated get credit where it's due. I certainly couldn't have done it on my own.



And I agree that there is no reason not to participate in both places if one has the time, the will and the ability. I (and we) have maintained since day one that the purpose of EOMA is NOT to replace MWO.



Thanks for your thoughts, Kuya.

[Otter]

I intend to use both sites for what they are best at. I will visit the new site to read and post about topics of interest in the field of alcoholism and addiction and to help with and benefit from the therapeutic, safe environment and enjoy passing the time with people I have got to know and like over the past 6 years.


This site, I will visit to post pictures and stories about my dogs.

I'm in a funny mood right now. The dogs have dug a hole under the back fence and are going around the neighbourhood visiting their friends. I feel a bit hopeless about it because I figure if I fill the hole they are going to learn to jump over the fence. The trouble is I have to let them out in the middle of the night for toiletting and they escape. One night it was two hours before the German Shephard came back and I could hear loud barking all over the place. It's so embarrassing, but then, he is such a cuddly, friendly thing I can't get angry with him and I don't want to pen him in.

I think it is like everything, you just have to get used to it. He's only about 1 1/2 years old so I figure he'll start to settle down over the course of the next year. Fingers crossed.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Otter, our greatest nightmare is that our husky will escape the fence. It's happened twice. Both times my mother left the gate open, "for just a second" and Pete was off to the races. She has no common sense about the real world...No fear of cars or people (thank goodness) or anything else for that matter. We live on a quiet street, but there are two busy streets too close for comfort. And she's a husky! So she's fast as lightening.

I also fear that someone might decide to take her in and keep her. I know that's probably irrational, because people are generally good and wouldn't do something that mean. But she is really, really pretty and very sweet. Anyway, it is one of the things that I obsess about when I'm over-stressed and full of anxiety, usually related to something that has nothing to do with her...

In both cases, we were able to catch her before she got far. Thank all that matters in the universe. She never tries to escape with us...And our fence is airtight. We even check it to make sure she hasn't dug deep enough to get under, because she digs to get to the varmints that populate our backyard. (Omg. The number of voles and mice she eats in the spring and summer probably account for half her protein. ugh. Thoroughly disgusting.)

[Otter]

I take our dogs up into the hills here or down to the beach.

I went up into a forestry reserve yesterday and a guy who lives up there decided to follow me with his dogs. They were all of the lead and mine went chasing down the hill to say hello. One of his two dogs ran off and I called my two back as I only had the two with me. As they approached the guy, my GS barked at his other dog and they guy started waving a cane about to scare him off.

We then walked off and he shouted something at me and walked away down the hill.

After my walk I was going back to my Jeep and he comes along in his 4x4 and I see him reversing and revving up like a mad man. I got to my car and he jumped out and started shouting at me that he was going to report me to the town council.

I guess I'm pretty stressed and I just couldn't put up with it so I told him to f off. He then accused me of "verbal assault" so I tole him he was an "a-hole" and to f off. He then told me to come up to him and say that, which I took as a threat, so I got the dogs in the car and went up to him and told him to f off. He kept on insulting me. I should have just walked off but I decided to launch into a barrage of verbal abuse at the guy, none of which made the slightest impact. He had one of those oval, featureless red faces, white hair and a bad shave. I just hate situations like that.

Seriously, I go up about 600 metres up into the mountians on a dirt road and he follows me. What the f are you supposed to do with dogs. I figure if you go to places like that and you both have dogs off leads, you get whatever comes your way and if your pooch isn't up to it, you should just walk it on the sidewalk on a lead, or carry it around.

My dogs are really fun and friendly. They just want to make friends. This guy didn't even say they were dangerous or did anything. One just barked at his dog. So what.

Seriously, what kind of weak-kneed, gutless world do we live in if people have to complain about one dog barking at another and get so steamed up they have to run home and get in their car and shout abuse at you.

Really!

[Baclofenman]

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[Baclofenman]

He is the one that is posted on NE's new site.

Im confused - On one hand you say that re-printing public domain information is wrong and then you re-produce a piece of material from.... the public domain

I mean, seriously?

Regards


Bacman

[Ne/Neva Eva]

It was simply an ease thing....but EOMA works for me or simply EO! lol

HAHA! I hadn't thought of that before.

I hope that, whatever you decide, you stay well and continue on the path.
Thanks, Kuya.

[Spiritfree]

Otter, our greatest nightmare is that our husky will escape the fence.

Ne, I may be saying this the wrong way, but your greatest fear should be that you do not continue to drive while drinking (or have been drinking) and kill another human being. We have all been where you are now Ne, and can only hope that you will be able to stop yourself from driving once you have been drinking.

Edit: Your Husky will be just fine but the person that you may end up killing while drinking and driving may not be fine -nor their family and friends. I am only assuming that you are still drinking and driving relative to your previous admissions of doing so recently.

[Spiritfree]

I am planning to do more intensive 3Principles training once my inheritance comes through and I have time (and money hehe) on my side.

Hi Kuya and good evening.
Neither the three Ps nor all the free or earned money you have will stop you from your addiction. The great thing to be acknowledged is the fact that you don't want to keep doing what your are doing.
You help others by letting them know that sobriety does not come from others (people, money, or things). Thanks for your post.