Army Thread Friday 15th June

[pingu1997]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

I.m making a scrap book of my relationship with alcohol, that's why aa screwed my head up so much last night. I only started it yesterday, I even printed stuff off here, trying to remind me all the reasons I don't want to go back to drinking again
I really want to do the aa steps, the one thing stopping me is step one, stuck, can't openly admit a problem
and they were banging on about honesty and truthfulness last night and the tears were rolling down my face....

[Recluse]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

mollyka;1334939 wrote: Morning Recciepandaman! I'm so sorry you're struggling with this - I was gonna say summat but I'm a bit out of my depth here - all I can do is offer a willing ear and lots of cyber :l:l:l

Thanks molls....have a couple back! :l:l

[littlepinkcat]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

pingu, admitting u have an al problem ie ur an alcoholic, is damn hard, i struggled with it 4 a bit, but when u get to the place when u can admit to urself u are an alcoholic, its liberating in a sense and thats when the real journey begins, were here with u on ur journey and u will do it at ur own pace , it can be emotional and turbulent and were here to soften the blow

[one2many]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

Pingu,

I think we have to remember there are alsorts of alcoholics...

The Chronic ones who drink from morning to night..
The Bingers
The ones who can stay sober for months at a time and then go off on one.
The weekend ones who cannot remember a thing that happened.
The daily drinkers (the ones who have a few EVERY night) maybe not get drunk or pass out but still have the same few EVERY night without fail and balk at the thought of giving it up....they are alcoholics too. This was my category and the category, which in my opinion is the hardest to admit to...
You always have the same old excuses.....
I only had 3
I was not drunk
I am not like so and so up the road
I am just unwinding

But you are still addicted to booze, still dependent on it, still using it for the buzz....

It is not about HOW much you drink nor how often, it is HOW it affects your quality of life, your relationships, your health, your mental state....

If you CANNOT give booze up or the thoughts of it sends you running for the hills panicking...you have a problem..

It was VERY hard for me to admit I had a problem but when I did, it became easier for me, like a weight off my shoulders, I told my ego to go fuck off and stop whispering that I was ok....I was never going to sort this thing out while I listened to it.

In short, there is NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING good about drinking, never was, never will be, when your head switches over from romanticising it to actually seeing it as a poison, detrimental to your life, it becomes easier..

Hang in there...

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

one2many;1334948 wrote: Pingu,

I think we have to remember there are alsorts of alcoholics...

The Chronic ones who drink from morning to night..
The Bingers
The ones who can stay sober for months at a time and then go off on one.
The weekend ones who cannot remember a thing that happened.
The daily drinkers (the ones who have a few EVERY night) maybe not get drunk or pass out but still have the same few EVERY night without fail and balk at the thought of giving it up....they are alcoholics too. This was my category and the category, which in my opinion is the hardest to admit to...
You always have the same old excuses.....
I only had 3
I was not drunk
I am not like so and so up the road
I am just unwinding

But you are still addicted to booze, still dependent on it, still using it for the buzz....

It is not about HOW much you drink nor how often, it is HOW it affects your quality of life, your relationships, your health, your mental state....

If you CANNOT give booze up or the thoughts of it sends you running for the hills panicking...you have a problem..

It was VERY hard for me to admit I had a problem but when I did, it became easier for me, like a weight off my shoulders, I told my ego to go fuck off and stop whispering that I was ok....I was never going to sort this thing out while I listened to it.

In short, there is NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING good about drinking, never was, never will be, when your head switches over from romanticising it to actually seeing it as a poison, detrimental to your life, it becomes easier..

Hang in there...

Beautifully said.

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

General good mornings, wavings and yoooooooooo hooooooooooooooos today.

Plans for the weekend. Twins,Olympic torch,England match, more twins, watching Mr JC tidy the garage, more twins, Aldi (did I tell you we were skint), even more twins, Oney's bread, did I mention the twins, knitting, airport to see twins go back to America, a few tears and lots of ice cream.

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

Yo Mollers, meant to say "Viel Gl?ck!" to Joey.

[Anjicia]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

Good post oney well said and so true.

[stirly-girly]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

Good morning Troopers!!

Best of luck to Pinky at your interview and to Joey with the German exam. Then we can all breathe a sigh of relief.

pingu1997;1334938 wrote: I.m making a scrap book of my relationship with alcohol, that's why aa screwed my head up so much last night. I only started it yesterday, I even printed stuff off here, trying to remind me all the reasons I don't want to go back to drinking again
I really want to do the aa steps, the one thing stopping me is step one, stuck, can't openly admit a problem
and they were banging on about honesty and truthfulness last night and the tears were rolling down my face....
I have been trying to write this for over an hour and keep getting interrupted to answer phone calls and wait on customers, so if I've repeated anything said by others during that time, bear with me...

Pingu, I know you are having a really hard time with this and I've seen others here who don't want to admit they are alcoholics, only that they have a problem with AL. I guess it's harder for some people to accept the fact that they are alcoholics. There are varied opinions out there as to who is an alcoholic and who is a problem drinker and where to draw the line. For me, it has to do with the thinking as well as the drinking. There are binge drinkers who binge once in a while but in between they don't think about AL. Alcoholics think about it. It's in their mind when they get up in the morning, whether it's thinking about if there's enough AL in the house to get through til tomorrow, or where they will buy their bottle from or how many hours (or minutes) til their first drink of the day.There are people here who consider themselves alcoholics even tho' their consumption is only 2 or 3 glasses of wine a night or a few beers. Why are they alcoholics? Because they think about it. Every day, they plan to drink and they do. It doesn't mean they have to get hammered every night, but they are mentally dependent on having their wine or beer every night, telling themselves it helps them to relax. And for them, not having even just a couple of glasses of wine or few beers is just as hard as it is for another person who drinks two bottles of wine every night. They are dependent on it, addicted to it. So they are an alcoholic IMHO even tho' their intake is much less than most people here when they are or were drinking. I don't know if that is any help to you. Another thing that I think with the people who don't want to admit that they are alcoholics, and this is just my own opinion, is that it is part of the alcoholic mentality that makes them not want to admit it because if they do, then they are also admitting that if they want to free themselves from this disease, that they will never, ever be able to have a drink again and it scares them. So they won't accept that they are alcoholics and they won't admit it. I've never been to an AA meeting but I have seen people posting here and I've heard a bit about the twelve steps. And others here have posted about the honesty and the acceptance factors. I believe you are a very honest person, Pingu, I think it's the acceptance part that is giving you such a problem right now. And the chicken and egg part about whether the depression was caused by AL or whether you turned to AL to help with the depression. I hope you can get these things straightened out in your mind and move on. Sending you strength and :huggy's.
Recluse;1334935 wrote: Not managing much AF time unfortunately, foxy. I see my AL worker every Monday in his capacity as psychotherapist, but we don't talk about AL very much....we've said everything there is to say. Good luck with your struggles. :l

Reccie - I wonder if you really have said all there is to say. Maybe you are avoiding talking about AL because you are putting off giving AF a good try again. Just saying. You're the one who knows best what's going on. And sending :l to you, too.

:wavin: to all of you and I hope you all are having a

[Panno]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

Morning Army

Fantastic shares this morning, thankyou :l

[Panno]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

Apart from a raging chest infection I'm good thanks Molly and yes its pissing down here too and just gor good measure theres thunder and lightning thrown in as well :H

[Panno]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

And congrats again Molly,mmmm new babies are gorgeous and especially grandchildren love them to bits

[stirly-girly]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

Hiya Panno!! Geez, sorry that you're still sick. Has the doctor given you anything? And what about your high blood pressure? What did the doctor say about that?

Molly, how about we switch? I'll send you sunshine and you send us some rain. We need it badly :upset:

How long before you know how Joey did on his exam? Crikey, you've got me nervous all the way over here. I distinctly remember when my kids wrote exams. I was so nervous every single year. They were calm and cool and I was frantic. Specially since we'd paid a shite-load of money for their special tutoring classes. The teachers are mostly in teaching for the job security and the status - their shit doesn't smell, and they can do no wrong - and the entrance exams to the federal-run colleges and university were very, very tough back then. Only four subjects had to be written but it took at least two years of tutoring for them to get enough knowledge to pass the entrance exams with good enough marks to get into the college or uni of their choice. Mind you there are no tuition fees and the books are free after they get into the course they want to but it costs the parents a small fortune by the time they pass.

[Panno]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

Hi Stirly, the doc has given me Amoxicillin, after having listened through his stethescope he said my chest is very wheezy, I could have told him that without them My blood pressure was not too bad yesterday, he took it a couple of times first reading was slightly high but by the third it was down to 155/90 which he considered safe (given that I had had 2 cups of coffee and ciggies before hand :upset They do want to monitor it every couple of weeks though to be safe. My take on the high blood pressure is work, I really do have anxiety problems here being away from home alot too does not help!

[Panno]

Army Thread Friday 15th June

I remember getting my results too Molly....the fecking headmistress just handed my a slip and said...well if there was any way of cheating in that exam room you must have found a way :biatch: Never felt so deflated in all my life !!