August Army Manoevres

[starty]

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Got home from the hospital today. YS was there said he got off early from work ...........
He had been drinking again and I told him to leave me alone - I wasn't talking until he was sober.
He sat & tried to strike up a bullshit conversation about why he drinks - FFS!!!

I told him I didn't know WHY he drank and go see a therapist who can get to the root of it and f*** off and leave me alone - I'm done talking.
I also told him his grandmother may not last to Christmas and I'm dealing with that and he can go drink himself to death for all I care.

He'll remember in the morning and be absolutely mortified and what will he do - drink to ease the shame.
I've realised it's the coward's way out - the easy way out - rather than face up to life.

Its the self perpetuating circle of destruction. I dont think I was as bad as YS and no one has ever had to say anything like that to me but I have probably said similar to myself. Is that the harshest words you have used with him Satzy? I would die if my mum had said those words to me and I think that would be my catalyst to change or felt like my rock bottom.

[starty]

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[MENTION=9094]satz123[/MENTION], sorry x-post.

Oh he'll use that as a new pity pot, no doubt about it.

I sometimes think we baby our kids for too long. I know I've done it with mine.

I think all parents baby their kids BUT what is it with the kids that they want that? I remember when I was 18 the most important thing for me was to leave home and stand on my own two feet and I pushed away from the babying from my mum. Do kids not do that anymore?

[starty]

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Molls, Satz how far did you go with the sugar quit? I still will eat fruit and have certain processed foods like my soya yogurt that has minimal sugar in it but I want to get away from the cakes, dried fruit and biscuits that govern my daily diet and cause cravings so severe that it I am like a junkie getting my fix

[starty]

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Good luck today Jax. Give that doctor what for

[NoraC]

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Big hugs Satz

[satz123]

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Molls, Satz how far did you go with the sugar quit? I still will eat fruit and have certain processed foods like my soya yogurt that has minimal sugar in it but I want to get away from the cakes, dried fruit and biscuits that govern my daily diet and cause cravings so severe that it I am like a junkie getting my fix

Starty - it is THE hardest thing to give up.
I am exactly the same. Once I start on the sweet buzz - I just keep going till I feel ill. Sound familiar ??
You have to treat it like the alcohol and cut it out completely. [MENTION=18725]NoSugar[/MENTION] is the total & complete expert on this. I have annoyed her so many times about it. :hug:

But Starts - take your time. You have stopped 2 major addictions - go easy on yourself.
You do not want to turn life into a drudge - where there is no joy at all in eating.

Sometimes without the alcohol - sweet treats - are a comfort.
F*** it. Have your fruit & biscuits.

[satz123]

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I think all parents baby their kids BUT what is it with the kids that they want that? I remember when I was 18 the most important thing for me was to leave home and stand on my own two feet and I pushed away from the babying from my mum. Do kids not do that anymore?

I KNOW Starty - FFS !!
Sometimes I think parents get too involved in their adult kids' problems.
When I was young - if I had a problem I did not run to Mammy - I had to sort it.

I became a 'sounding' board for everything. I told my DD years ago - unless it's life or death I don't want to know - that's what friends are for.
I was listening to her problems, her friends money / boyfriend problems etc. I was losing sleep and they were off flitting around ...... feck's sake.

Sounds harsh - it is - but they need to grow up and fend for themselves.
If I had any way of doing it - YS would be out - but he can't hold down a job long enough ...........

[satz123]

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Big hugs Satz

Thanks Nora :hug:

[mollyka]

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Starty - it is THE hardest thing to give up.
I am exactly the same. Once I start on the sweet buzz - I just keep going till I feel ill. Sound familiar ??
You have to treat it like the alcohol and cut it out completely. [MENTION=18725]NoSugar[/MENTION] is the total & complete expert on this. I have annoyed her so many times about it. :hug:

But Starts - take your time. You have stopped 2 major addictions - go easy on yourself.
You do not want to turn life into a drudge - where there is no joy at all in eating.

Sometimes without the alcohol - sweet treats - are a comfort.
F*** it. Have your fruit & biscuits.

fully agree - down in the centre they were extremely anti cigarettes - like big time - but they advised me to give myself at least a year or two (I gave it two) to try quitting - too much to take on all at once - sugar wasn't a huge biggy to me - yes I eat it and sometimes eat too much but somehow it's not an addiction to me - I can eat two squares of choc and leave it.. but I didn't quit like Benjy did - no way was I cutting out fruit - bugger that - 60 years of being told it was good for me - that was a step too far - and as I say - didn't feel all that much different anyway so really couldn't see the point -- bit like my two wee grandchildren - a few months apart - the older one eats what she wants when she wants - she's the picture of health and the happiest baby on the planet (dont' get me wrong they don't stuff fast food or sweets into her but just not a strict regime) the other baby - asparagus is a treat.... mmmm -- moderation in all things.....??

I KNOW Starty - FFS !!
Sometimes I think parents get too involved in their adult kids' problems.
When I was young - if I had a problem I did not run to Mammy - I had to sort it.

I became a 'sounding' board for everything. I told my DD years ago - unless it's life or death I don't want to know - that's what friends are for.
I was listening to her problems, her friends money / boyfriend problems etc. I was losing sleep and they were off flitting around ...... feck's sake.

Sounds harsh - it is - but they need to grow up and fend for themselves.
If I had any way of doing it - YS would be out - but he can't hold down a job long enough ...........

100% yes - my 2nd son was a past master at that arrive at the door - unload his worries - we'd be in the horrors for a week only to hear he'd been off on hols ALL week happy as a sand boy - learnt from that I did

[mollyka]

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Hiya Nora - would love to see you round here more often xxx
Off away for a few days - up to Norn Iron -we have hundreds of engerlish pounds to spend - we had it for Scotland earlier this year and then we couldn't go - so it's like a free hol - then over to Donegal - depending on the weather when we come home - too hot as big a prob on the bike as too cool - so we'll see how it goes... laters gaters xx

[mollyka]

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just a quick run back - felt I was criticising the way the youngest grandbaby was being fed - on the contrary - it's amazing - and the experience of foods (like asparagus!!) at 8 months old I'm in admiration of - just needed to say that - wasn't being mean!!!! laters xxxx

[JackieClaire]

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Morning,
The S&H's favourite was sprouts when he was around 6 months. He still loves them. :egad:

Anyway back from the horsepital........I'll be the one who made the rest of the day's appointments run late. Must have had the consultant all to myself for 45minutes while he read the letter and commented on honestly going to have to let it sink in and have a chat with himself later on. Half the weight I had put on has come off which is no surprise to me or Mr JC as my anxiety has been up the swannee recently..........when I'm anxious I don't eat.....simple.....despite me & Mr JC telling him several times.......... more bloods were taken.
He also had a good prod about and I've got to have a full body scan..............just in case there is something more sinister. More anxiety then.

I'll take some of your Engerlish pounds of you, Molls. I'm sure I can find a good use for them. We're taking off up the road into deep Northumberland tomorrow after the auction. Need to blow some cobwebs away and a big plate of fish and chips at Seahouses.

[mollyka]

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Ach it'd have saved you all that time at weight watchers

Up in norn iron- such strange folk - the bigots fly appropriate flags outside their houses - think if I was one I'd try to hide it! Hotel is gorgeous

[starty]

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Starty - it is THE hardest thing to give up.
I am exactly the same. Once I start on the sweet buzz - I just keep going till I feel ill. Sound familiar ??
You have to treat it like the alcohol and cut it out completely. [MENTION=18725]NoSugar[/MENTION] is the total & complete expert on this. I have annoyed her so many times about it. :hug:

But Starts - take your time. You have stopped 2 major addictions - go easy on yourself.
You do not want to turn life into a drudge - where there is no joy at all in eating.

Sometimes without the alcohol - sweet treats - are a comfort.
F*** it. Have your fruit & biscuits.

yes you are right of course. But I could at least do with cutting down on my sugar intake. Feeling decidedly porky after losing all that weight for a couple of years. I could not do without any sweetness at all that is why I said I would have fruit. However fruit makes me fart a bit :haha:

[starty]

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Morning,
The S&H's favourite was sprouts when he was around 6 months. He still loves them. :egad:

Anyway back from the horsepital........I'll be the one who made the rest of the day's appointments run late. Must have had the consultant all to myself for 45minutes while he read the letter and commented on honestly going to have to let it sink in and have a chat with himself later on. Half the weight I had put on has come off which is no surprise to me or Mr JC as my anxiety has been up the swannee recently..........when I'm anxious I don't eat.....simple.....despite me & Mr JC telling him several times.......... more bloods were taken.
He also had a good prod about and I've got to have a full body scan..............just in case there is something more sinister. More anxiety then.

I'll take some of your Engerlish pounds of you, Molls. I'm sure I can find a good use for them. We're taking off up the road into deep Northumberland tomorrow after the auction. Need to blow some cobwebs away and a big plate of fish and chips at Seahouses.

Sorry about the scan business Jax. I am sure all will be well and it is just the anxiety.

Not sure if I missed something but are you still anxious about the Cdiff? I thought that was on the mend? Sorry if I missed something