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    #46
    Gabapentin

    Hi JD,

    I really appreciate your honesty and I am still very interested in anything you may have to report following xmas.
    I mean you do state that there is a marked difference in your drinking, so I wouldn't beat myself up if I was you!
    As for the other thing, well that's up to you. Not sure if Gaba has any positive influence on that.

    If after xmas you are not happy with what has happened drinking wise would your doctor prescribe more? Would a higher dose be more beneficial?

    Anyway have a great xmas and enjoy your time with your family.

    Cheerio

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      #47
      Gabapentin

      Hey Indy. I'm not beating myself up for me because I know it had to do with my poor judgement. I just hate to report that and deter someone that may have found hope in this. That hope is still here. I'm pretty sure I will have positives to post. As I've seen numerous times in this forum (from me too)... Just because u r taking meds, doesn't mean u r not accountable for ur actions. Unfortunately, I didn't practice what I preached. After 21 years a falling, I don't beat myself up anymore. I get up, dust myself off, and move forward. That's just the smart thing to do. As far as my doctor, yeah I would discuss options with him. I am more interested in dosing schedule. I would hope there was a way to take less, then more to mix it up. Maybe take 1200 most days, then 1800 when I wanted to drink. I don't know. I'm may not even have to cross that bridge. I'm sure I'm fine. My old playmates r not good decisions for me.
      When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

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        #48
        Gabapentin

        JD -I hope that you really understand that most of here understand that we are all alcoholics to some degree. Alcohol is the single thread that connects us all. And my hats off to you for telling the damn truth.

        Do you realize how truly helpful it really is for others to hear the reality? Look, this is exactly why alcohol is so devastatingly DEADLY -people are so afraid to tell the truth. How can we get real help if we don't tell the truth?

        It is my hope that you keep on posting your path. And listen, alcoholism is now meeting with medicine and there is about to be real help -from the money people.

        Gabapentin is about to revolutionize the recovery industry and you make book on that. Side note is this this -you already know what you know the mixing of other compounds will eventually do. Really would be awesome if you could take thirty to sixty peace days.

        As they say, if nothing changes then nothing changes.

        Peace to you and your family and to all here on MWO

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          #49
          Gabapentin

          If u don't know someone named spiritwolf, then ur not alive. Thanx brother/sister. Man big positive. I was so excited to come out back and post. I definitely had a share of booze. Count is 5? ... Somewhere around there. We had soooo much fun. I recently switched to apple pie a la mode and coffee. I have a great bit here... My good friend that got sober with me in AA is here. She now has 9 years.... Super charged old timer for us. I came in with coffee and she totally stopped the conversation and said... ARE U DRINKING COFFEE? I said yeah u outta drop that AA bullshit and let's catch a buzz. It was funny. So guys and gals 5 and done. Bet if ur anything like me u can't say that with a straight face. No cravings. Half hour and slice of pie later.... Totally sober. Merry Christmas peeps. Dizzle out.
          When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

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            #50
            Gabapentin

            Nice dude. So me and my fianc? went to the little Podunk casino here and won 1200 bucks. The moral of the story is Jesus loves alcoholics. I really wanted to post because it was cool... They serve booze there and when they announced last call, I just kinda laughed. Holy shit... U remember last call? Oh my god!!! It's last call already!?!? Honey come with me because they only serve two drinks per person and oh shit will 4 hold me? Hahaha Jesus man. Last call is such a stressful time. Anyhoo, time for bed. I bet my mom is gonna flip when I wake up with the kids to open presents.
            When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

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              #51
              Gabapentin

              I had a few encounters with alcohol today. I went down to this pond to fish so I grabbed a beer. I then decided I really didnt want it and gave it to my brother in law. A few hours later, I came back to rest and did have a few beers with my brother in law. That was fun. No craving after. Tonight at the end of all the family stuff, I had half a Bloody Mary and poured the rest out. It was very very very good, but I just kind of had my fill of it and I was done. I'm done for the night too. We r all watchin family guy. It's going to be a while before I get used to this and I pray it continues.
              When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

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                #52
                Gabapentin

                Poor decision making has been my downfall several times as well. It's one of the reasons I want to try something different. I'm quite able to overcome indifference when I set my mind to it, which is a bummer. Definitely going to look into gabapentin, thanks for the thread JD.

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                  #53
                  Gabapentin

                  JDizzle;1603014 wrote: . It's going to be a while before I get used to this and I pray it continues.
                  JD -What do you mean by getting use to ... to what? Just trying to understand, not pry.

                  bleep;1603028 wrote:                   Poor decision making has been my downfall several times as well. It's one of the reasons I want to try something different. Definitely going to look into gabapentin, thanks for the thread JD.
                  Hi Bleep -From what I have read, Gabapentin may be more stable and consistent than baclofen --- and accepted by many more doctors as a recovery tool. New director at NIAAA lead the recent research using gabapentin.

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                    #54
                    Gabapentin

                    Thanks spirit... I'd like nobody to misinterpret my interest in other methods. Baclofen changed my life immeasurably for the better, and allowed me to get a taste of what a world without alcohol was like. It has made me realise that not only is that a tolerable existence, but a desirable one. The quest on that front will continue.

                    And in what could be an amusing or devastatingly Monty pythonish moment, depending on your point of view, how's this for a mind fuck... As I said in other posts, the reason I am looking further than baclofen is that the potential for fuck ups still exists. This never happened in the early days, but since I recently titrated up again, it appears to be there... I thought I had just gotten used to it, or something, and what JD said in his post above really resonated - that I have such poor judgement, and actually desire to get pissed, so much so that I thought I was overcoming baclofen.


                    I get my baclofen mixed for me at a pharmacy. In the early days they expressed amazement at the dose I was taking, but I thought they had gotten over that. Anyway, today i had a look at the label that they put on the bottle, for the first time. It says baclofen 5 mg/ml. It is supposed to say 50. So now I wonder, am I on a tenth of the dose that I think I'm on? A part of me says it's a typo, there is no way I could be, I would have noticed the difference, but another part of me hopes this is the case. It gives me a very easy out, and a very easy solution. It is possible...


                    I titrated up on a bottle of Lo0p's baclofen, which was definitely at the correct dose. After that I moved to the pharmacy brew that I get done locally, and if at that point the dose was massively reduced, I could easily have tolerated the decrease. Anyway, it's conjecture for now. I'm "overdosing" tonight to see if the bottle I have is really under powered, and will speak to the pharmacy tomorrow to verify, but it's an interesting conundrum.


                    Man, I'd like to live in a country where this sort of shit doesn't happen!


                    I'll let you know tomorrow what the results are. I suspect that I am clutching at straws, but we will see. Either way, gabapentin remains a promising option.

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                      #55
                      Gabapentin

                      I'm thinking about trying gabapentin regularly just for shits n' giggles since I have so much of it. It really doesn't seem to do *anything* for me, but who knows. I'm not drinking and don't really want to right now, so maybe it'll help with some of the residual anxiety from that?

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                        #56
                        Gabapentin

                        Let's all take some! Kidding. It is pretty promising stuff and I'm really hoping that there will be some long term success stories. JD- you are kind of at the tip of the spear and I am enjoying your thread... Jesus loves alcoholics

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                          #57
                          Gabapentin

                          Okay, definitely not 5 mg. feeling somewhat weird here. Need to start treating this stuff with more respect it would seem. Perhaps it's not 50, but it's certainly not 5.

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                            #58
                            Gabapentin

                            bleep;1603208 wrote: Okay, definitely not 5 mg. feeling somewhat weird here. Need to start treating this stuff with more respect it would seem. Perhaps it's not 50, but it's certainly not 5.
                            (that didn't take long)

                            :nutso:
                            TerryK celebrates 6 years of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

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                              #59
                              Gabapentin

                              terryk;1603210 wrote: (that didn't take long)

                              :nutso:
                              Wowsers, I had completely forgotten what his feels like. Twitching insomnia. It's passing now thankfully.


                              Definitely a call to the pharmacy is in order.

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                                #60
                                Gabapentin

                                Bleep -I guess I over react to good news sometimes (hell, I over react to everything), but when the new director of National Institute of Health -Alcoholism was the person in charge of the gabapentin program at the Scripps Institute, I have cause to become more hopeful than ever for the plight of alcoholics all around the globe. Just a thought.

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