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    #46
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    Oops, I have a hangover. I want to smack myself in the forehead like the V8 commercial. I coulda had...a pepsi. Oh well, it was fun. Bf says he had two glasses, I think he's lying. I had the rest.:H I stopped before going to bed (empty bottle), drank soda and watched a little t.v. No blackout or anything terrible, just not used to feeling hungover. Could have a little to do with not eating too. You think?

    Anyway, on coffee now. Trying to get motivated to go to my hair appointment in a couple of hours. Hope everyone else is doing well.


    "I like people too much or not at all."
    Sylvia Plath

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      #47
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      Hi, All and welcome Cash!

      Believe it or not, I worked it out with my wife where I fed the twins last night at 10, then she took the overnight and I got up at 5:30 and played 9 holes of golf at 6 :15! I know she felt I should get up and keep the routine of playing 9 holes early Friday, I like the excersize, walking and carrying my bag. But when the babies were crying and I was walking out the door, I felt pretty guilty! I guess Cash isn't the only glutten for punishment!

      Today is day 27 AF for me. 30 is quickly approaching and I'm a little fearful that I'll use passing that milestone as an excuse to have a day or two of moderation...and I don't think I'm ready to mod yet. I want to stick to my new goal of 6 weeks, so 42 days is my new goal.

      LG, don't beat yourself up too much for the hangover, you'll feel better later on today. VL, you might want to try a few days without the beers and the hard stuff. I know you feel that the hard stuff is what gives you the problems, but I've found there's a huge difference between having some alcohol and none. Again, I might be the teapot calling the kettle black. But you've taken the first steps, why not see what it's like? I know I couldn't do it without the MWO "supplements" and my Rx for Naltrexone, but it's been pretty easy with all that and the Hypnotherapy CDs.

      At the same time, VL, this is the moderation thread, so feel free to disregard my suggestion, and I'm sorry if I'm stepping on or over the line.

      Have a great day everyone. TGIfF!
      Well the 1st are the hardest days don't you worry anymore.
      When life looks like easy street there is danger at your door.

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        #48
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        Hey D. Glad you enjoyed your golf game and got some exercise. I know it must have been tough to leave the little guys like that. Great job on 27 days AF. Awesome self control. Even moreso that you're planning on 42 days. Do what works for you, is my motto.

        I am still slowly getting back to normal this morning. Just went out to a yard sale with bf to see what they had. They advertised that they had swords. All it took for bf to want to go.:H We didn't buy anything...swords were nice, but not worth it.


        "I like people too much or not at all."
        Sylvia Plath

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          #49
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          Happy Friday squad!

          Out and about on Job Walks all morning.

          I'll catch up with you all later!
          And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back so shake him off ~ Florence and the Machine

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            #50
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            Happy Friday to all from me too...

            Library Girl - I'll hear you. No hangover for me, but we had friends over for lunch and I had a glass of wine, then another. Then they left, and I kept going up to six. They were spread out, so I wasn't really under the influence, but six is not moderation!!

            I'm aiming for an AF day today.

            Something I'm wondering from other modders: I've been surprised at how quickly my tolerance for alcohol goes down when I being truly moderate. After two or three abstemious or moderate (1 or 2) days, if I then have 3 glasses of wine, I really feel it. And 3 is on my moderate list.

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              #51
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              Ok, got a chance to stop at office between job walks.............

              DG & LG - I think what moderation means varies for each one of us. We all have one goal and that is not to let AL ruin or control our lives, and we each obtain that same goal in different ways and I think as long as you are conscious of what you are doing and learn from any mistakes and continue to try then your doing pretty good.

              LG - hope that HO leaves you soon, I love a good yard sale, hope you enjoy your day.......

              D- So excited for you and love that you are still well aware you are not ready to drink and admit you may never be - I know if you decide to go 6 weeks YOU WILL. I appreciate the advice on just going AF for a bit, and I had brought that up myself as well, thinking I need to just cleanse.

              My husband is a much better man when I let him out to play golf, I am sure you are as well so your wife genuinely wanted you to go - no need for guilt just return the favor, let her go for massage, or a pedi or you give her a massage or pick up a few of the chores or feedings.....

              Well we had a nice evening our best friends (another couple) came over for tacos, I had 3 beers and politely told them at 9:45 I had to get to bed. Went to bed round 10 and watched a little TV, had great nights sleep and just awoke ecstatic still that I have not had any Liquor!

              To everyone else - HAVE A SAFE, HAPPY AND MODERATE WEEKEND
              And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back so shake him off ~ Florence and the Machine

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                #52
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                Good question....

                LibraryGirl;1359133 wrote: Hey Stewarts. I'm tempted to ask, are you addicted to the drama of having a "messy" relationship? It seems like you have been in situations with women since you've been posting here that always seem to have some conundrum. Don't be offended by that question, please. I am just asking you to think about it. When you think about being involved with a nice, unattached "normal" woman does it seem boring?

                I can understand the addiction. I think some of us here who are working on modding, and moving away from abusing AL, have felt the "pull" of conflict and drama. I might be wrong, but it seems to go hand in hand with our personalities.
                I'm definitley not offended. I was attached and married for so long (6 1/2 years) its hard to tell. I can tell you this, I got married, well, one of the reasons was to avoid this drama. My ex-wife and I lived a pretty drama free relationship, yes, we started having some bad times, it caused us to disconnect and we just never connected again after that.

                Before this, I only had one real crazy in my mid 20's. As for why I entered this relationship....well, my heart doesn't open up very easily, but as you pointed out, I have fun. Although, haha, you're making me laugh now, I'm starting to think this work "friend" of mine is really off her rocker (other things). DfromCT, you're right, my head being cleared for a few days really has helped.

                So, how I got in this predicament, well, I met this lovely woman and she told me she was seperated, I was able to empathize, I believe I told her she's probably getting divorced (just from my own and others experience). Then we started dating, I had thought she was seperated longer, she acted like it. It was only a few months, I was on a year and half, I'm definitley over it (and signed). I figured, f it, she's attractive, fun, just take it for what it is. Then my friend pointed out what did I want out of this. We were spending so much time together, she's even met my parents twice (they know the situation), its okay ot have fun, but then I need to find something permenant. I realized my heart was open to her, I always used to take the safe option, may be that's why I'm divorced now, I remember when I decided to get married, I broke it down logically, not passionately.

                But to answer your question, no, believe it or not, I do not like it. Why I got in this situation? I just went with it, maybe it was a good idea or bad, I don't know, but for the first time I feel like I love someone as crazy as that sounds, and I've have decent experience in this department.

                I told her she needs to make a decision soon, not so much me or him, divorce or work on your marriage, the latter does not look too good.

                And people, I don't take any of this offensively or personal, I appreciate your comments and concern. My own parents even said, how did your life become such a soap opera?

                Anyway, right now I'm working on sobriety, or modding, but right now, I have no taste for alcohol. I have 12 miles (marathon training) tomorrow.

                As for normal women...hehehe, this may sound crazy, well the first part won't, there are a lot of beautiful women in NYC, most of them, are crazy... :H

                Have a great weekend and I appreciate all your thoughts and support. I want to get back to helping you all out as well.

                Best,

                j.

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                  #53
                  August Mod Squad

                  Ok, I have time to respond to you all

                  V - embracing monotony is crap, and yes, someone giving you a line, LG gave you great advice. There are lots of things you can do. For me, I still play hockey (kids 10 years younger then me), train for marathons and there's no bigger thrill for me than skiing. You just need to figure it out, may be its cooking? My parents take cooking classes all the time and they love it...maybe you and your hubby can try that?

                  Cash - mental health is so overlooked these days, so please do not hesitate to post. I was starting to catch up on posts, but it seems like you've had some things, perhaps even serious going on for some time, but many times they seem mundane, but are doing a lot of damage to our lives. I am actually taking meds now myself, have been for almost a year. I suffered depression, not right after my divorce, or really it was my separation when we decided that this was the road we were going to take, but like 6-8 months after when it started becoming real. I mean, I think back, I was staring off into walls into my office, I had the most awful opinion of myself, I would even tell women, "you don't want to go out with me, I'm a loser, you can do much better." I even told my dad that this was actually dwarnistic, and my time to succeed in life has simply come and gone (?!?!?!WTF?!?!?) I was never suicidal, but I truly did not care if I died. I consider myself a fighter, by nature, but at that point in my life, if I was in a situation where I had to fight for my life, I probably wouldn't. I then locked myself in my apartment and read, or watched TV, went on a run, didn't socialize with anyone. Things are much better now, and I think I might be going off the meds in the Fall. Oh, and I'm 37 and finally figuring out that I had problems with depression in the past, it was not just the end of my marriage.

                  LG, like everyone said, don't sweat it...you were with loved ones, looking out for you.

                  D, question, how do you golf and not drink a beer or two? ;-)

                  -j

                  Happy Friday

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                    #54
                    August Mod Squad

                    I feel so pretty, oh so pretty...urgirl: Hee hee, got my hair done (highlighted and cut, styled), and it looks nice. Bf said he's going to lay me down when we get home.:H Btw, we're home and he's playing TW13. Men.

                    I feel better...had a moment of panic at the salon: thought I'd lost my debit card. Found it later tucked in a pocket of my wallet. Whew! Think I'll read for a while and take a nap. I love Fridays.

                    AF day today.


                    "I like people too much or not at all."
                    Sylvia Plath

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                      #55
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                      LG, you sound like you're having the best afternoon of us all!! You go! Enjoy yourself!

                      j

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                        #56
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                        Stewarts;1359463 wrote: For me, I still play hockey (kids 10 years younger then me), s and there's no bigger thrill for me than skiing. D, question, how do you golf and not drink a beer or two? ;-)
                        J: I play too, though at the big 5-0 I referee more than I play. I was never as good as I thought I was anyway! I also ski, and really REALLY love it. Especially out west. Went to Utah for the first time Feb of last year and it started snowing day 2 of 8 and stopped three weeks later! OMG, I think Snobird has replaced the back bowls of Vail as my favorite place to ski, it was mid week, and awesome! Also enjoyed SnowBasin and Powder Ridge (most acres of any ski resort in N. America, and nobody's heard of it!) while I was there.

                        Believe me, I drank beers on the golf course religiously, usually about 8 per 18 holes! Could be more if it's really hot. LOL, my first few rounds sober were horrible, but I'm ok early in the AM.....

                        I love to cook, too! :H
                        Well the 1st are the hardest days don't you worry anymore.
                        When life looks like easy street there is danger at your door.

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                          #57
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                          Stewart's, good Idea on the cooking my son will be headed off to college in a few weeks and I will just be cooking for two and we can try some more upscale meals since I am not not just trying to feed husband son and his 20 friends - My husband does sometimes cook with me and I always enjoy it. I think If I tell him to find some recipes he would want to try and we made them together I would look forward to that

                          LG - Jealous I love a good day off nap

                          My niece is staying the night tonight (sleepover) I am really not a kid person and my house is not to kid friendly, not uppity just no toys and kid movies and stuff. I love me niece, but I love my Friday evenings to do what I want. But I am trying to get excited about it and glad I wont be in a fog of Liquor - She is coming over at 4 we will go grab her favorite dinner (Kentucky Fried Chicken) bring bang and watch a movie or summin, then we will held out to First Friday Downtown, big art, food and music festival held on the first friday of every month so we will probably get home around 9-9:30 then bed time for her I hope - gunna take her for an early morning bike ride and then I have to have her home by 8:30 because they are leaving on a trip, so I should be able to get thru it just fine

                          Check in later Hello to anyone I manage to leave out - Hope you all have a nice evening
                          And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back so shake him off ~ Florence and the Machine

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                            #58
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                            Hi all from over in South Australia on a very very foggy and cold Saturday morning. Hockey run done so am kicking back with a coffee and watching the sun struggle to peep through the fog. I'm on day7 AF and very happy about that! Saw my dr yesterday and got some ripper heavy duty antibiotics that are making me feel a little queasy but will hopefully clear up sinus infection quick smart.
                            Well done LG - that's great that you got up and had a productive day anyway
                            Dave you are doing brilliantly and in doing so not missing all those precious moments that go ever so quickly.
                            Hope your night with your niece went well vlivengood - I am also not a kiddy person - have my gorgeous girl but still never know what to say and do with other people's little ones - sound like you had a big night planned out for her and I bet she loved it
                            Stewarts - depression is horrible - I don't have many depressive episodes tend more towars the "ups" with my brand of bipolar - but unlike in my 20s the manic stages are now extremely agitated and no fun at all - bipolar is a progressive disease if ya don't take your meds - it does get worse, the nature of it changes over time. Stick with your antidepressant as long as you need it - did you know that alcohol is a depressant and virtually cancels out the benefits of an AD? Might want to try some AF time on it and see how it works then...maybe
                            Anyway only other news is took dad to the specialist and he has to have more surgery next week ( more foot gone ) But there was an upside cause the first thing I thought was " I need a drink" and the second thing I thought was " no I don't".
                            A big hello to anyone I missed - sorry- hard to keep up for this time zone sometimes
                            Have a brilliant night/day all.
                            Cashy xxx
                            "Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans" - John Lennon

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                              #59
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                              Stewarts - one interesting fact my psych told me is that with my type of bipolar affective disorder ( full title - though I prefer the old manic depression reckon that sums it up better! ) is that over 60% of people with bipolar type 1 use alcohol to try and contain their manic episodes (it s a depressant you see so we mad people think it will calm us down - there's bipolar logic for ya! ). So the likelihood of a comorbidity issue ( bipolar plus alcohol abuse for example) is extremely high. So vigilance is necessary! That's why I'm here to learn from all of you
                              "Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans" - John Lennon

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                                #60
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                                Back again for a minute. Tried to nap this afternoon, but bf kept waking me up. I now have an estrogren patch on my ass. Hoping it will improve my moods. Just saying that kinda makes me giggle, so that's a step forward, hee hee.

                                Thanks Stewarts, I did enjoy my afternoon. I hope you have a great Friday as well. Steer clear of triangles.

                                vliven, I hope you have a good time with your neice. Sounds like you have some great stuff lined up. I'm sure she will enjoy it. You might have planned too well. She'll be wanting to stay with aunty V every weekend! hahahaha!

                                Mornin Cashy. Good job on day 7. Glad you are sticking with your meds. I have a sinus infection as well, but scared to take antibiotics. They mess up my stomach. Hope you have a great Saturday.


                                "I like people too much or not at all."
                                Sylvia Plath

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